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John C - 13 Oct'03 - 10:49 - 1 of 747
Who is Margaret Samea anyway???
Is she a director??
JAN8MM - 13 Oct'03 - 12:46 - 2 of 747
What is happening with RSV, new on the block and wondering as it trippled in value over last month and wanting to buy some.
sps - 13 Oct'03 - 12:57 - 3 of 747
hats what i am trying to find out.
also dont know who this Maggie is ???
AN8MM - 13 Oct'03 - 13:58 - 4 of 747
she only got 5 100 000 shares worth about urrr £11 220..... think I must buy some, did buy some this morning but not showing yet, but more would be nice.
psps - 14 Oct'03 - 09:32 - 5 of 747
some activity again today.
does anyone what is going in with this company ??
JAN8MM - 14 Oct'03 - 15:07 - 6 of 747
Well, See the spike in January 2002, I wanna sit and wait for that wave, but other than that only heard cracks speak about RSV that is why I bought some, nothing concrete or in stone.
Justjus - 15 Oct'03 - 08:01 - 7 of 747
that's the pump 'n dump over with then!
alia - 15 Oct'03 - 08:10 - 8 of 747
yes has fallen back in the last week, worth a good punt again
psps - 15 Oct'03 - 08:14 - 9 of 747
took a GAMBLE and bought 250K shares after a BIG FALL
but my buy is not showing yet
JAN8MM - 15 Oct'03 - 08:14 - 10 of 747
50% it's value...from monday,,,, noice move on my side, ...NOT
Justjus - 15 Oct'03 - 08:24 - 11 of 747
MMs topping up, maybe there's another pump 'n dump in this one?
psps - 15 Oct'03 - 08:24 - 12 of 747
two deals of 2.5mln as buy under " M ".............
are the MM short of stock or are they filling a buy order ?
alia - 15 Oct'03 - 08:34 - 13 of 747
i think the 2 deals are the sells, the reason for the drop. hopefully it will rise back up again
psps - 15 Oct'03 - 08:44 - 14 of 747
my buy is still shown
psps - 15 Oct'03 - 08:44 - 15 of 747
my buy is still shown
deb81e - 15 Oct'03 - 08:52 - 16 of 747
250k & 700k not shown
psps - 15 Oct'03 - 09:16 - 17 of 747
at last my BUY of 250K is shown after over an hour the deal was done.
and advfn shows it in the green
maxmillion - 15 Oct'03 - 09:42 - 18 of 747
Tons of stock purchased - would have thought another tick back was overdue ??
psps - 15 Oct'03 - 09:43 - 19 of 747
over 14 MLN shares traded..............OK its only about £17K but the volume is pretty heavy for this stock.
i still dont know whats going on with RSV
terry moon - 15 Oct'03 - 09:43 - 20 of 747
Must be a big dump going on - look for end of day or later record.
Justjus - 15 Oct'03 - 09:44 - 21 of 747
alia - I'm completely mystified as to how you came to that conclusion!
RBonnier - 15 Oct'03 - 10:00 - 22 of 747
Watch this stock crash to 0.06 again!classic pump & dump
Kamlani - 15 Oct'03 - 10:06 - 23 of 747
Rbonnier there were two MM trades this morning for 2.5 million ok it is not alot but its still a MM buy.imo
VERY QUICK - 15 Oct'03 - 10:59 - 24 of 747
I put an order in this morning with Halifax online to buy 3mill at 0.119p but they could not confirm to fill the full order. Max price 0.120p. so will report later how many if any i got.
psps - 15 Oct'03 - 11:07 - 25 of 747
Very Quick,
are u stake building ?
VERY QUICK - 15 Oct'03 - 11:08 - 26 of 747
Its about time this got a tick up???
psps - 15 Oct'03 - 11:14 - 27 of 747
IT will
VERY QUICK - 15 Oct'03 - 11:19 - 28 of 747
PSPS lets see how many i got this morning then may put in another order for 3mill today or tomoro.
psps - 15 Oct'03 - 11:31 - 29 of 747
VERY QUICK,
go on ask Halifax as to how many they got for you
pictureframe - 15 Oct'03 - 11:37 - 30 of 747
Was going to take a small punt but it collapsed again . Avoid
jayeshp - 15 Oct'03 - 11:45 - 31 of 747
looks grim.....going back to where is was.
jmillskeel - 15 Oct'03 - 11:46 - 32 of 747
2m mm buy
VERY QUICK - 15 Oct'03 - 11:57 - 33 of 747
There is my 2mill buy at 11:40am order was for 3mill dind get all of them
easymoney03 - 15 Oct'03 - 12:22 - 34 of 747
looks good for a bounce from this level
alexicacon - 15 Oct'03 - 12:28 - 35 of 747
I,m not so sure. Nearly bought a mil this morning til i saw 4 week low, 0.02. I'll hang on a bit i think.
Justjus - 15 Oct'03 - 12:37 - 36 of 747
anyone know who Mrs Margaret Samea is?
what does she know???
mattheworchard - 15 Oct'03 - 12:42 - 37 of 747
Does anyone know the amount of losses this company has, and would be worth to a potential reverse takeover partner?
Would it be as high as 3p per share?
psps - 15 Oct'03 - 12:42 - 38 of 747
Maggie might know something but why does the share price keep falling ??
VERY QUICK - 15 Oct'03 - 12:45 - 39 of 747
Just placed an other for another 2mill at 0.110p at 12:42 lets see if i get all of them???
psps - 15 Oct'03 - 12:48 - 40 of 747
VERY QUICK,
this Maggie now has 6.6 mln shares so are you competing with her stake.
why the shares keep dropping ??????
singinsmythe - 15 Oct'03 - 12:50 - 41 of 747
Maggie could easily be another hopeful private investor, at this sort of price it's not difficult to buy a notifiable stake in the company. If I was on board I'd be manning the life boats and preparing to jump.
psps - 15 Oct'03 - 12:54 - 42 of 747
only on monday they were creeeping higher and now down 41.2% .
i wonder if the company will make an announcement
double6 - 15 Oct'03 - 12:55 - 43 of 747
Ticked down again - will be tempted to get on boards @ 0.07p....
rarther - 15 Oct'03 - 12:57 - 44 of 747
Gents I can't see why someone with a £7,000 investment must 'know something'. Any of us could take a large stake in this company.
The market cap of £1.25m stated by advfn is incorrect.
There are 124.2m shares in issue meaning the cap is actually £125,000. The random people who appear as very large holders are just private investors with average investments. To base an investment decision on a random woman with an average investment is at best very naive. Dyor!
rs1 - 15 Oct'03 - 12:59 - 45 of 747
whats going on with RSV ?
anyone as to who MAGGIE is ????????
rarther - 15 Oct'03 - 13:00 - 46 of 747
Someone with a £7,000 holding!
i.e. nobody!
BestBuddy - 15 Oct'03 - 13:01 - 47 of 747
Jeeez, there are some dumb asses about.
Heh heh heh.
Diggerdaws - 15 Oct'03 - 13:01 - 48 of 747
where is the value
It doesnt trade
No significant assets
What will somebody pay for the listing on a reverse takeover not a lot!
dennisbergkamp - 15 Oct'03 - 13:03 - 49 of 747
Ok, so otherwise... why stake build? Bought some for the heck of iy...
D.
rarther - 15 Oct'03 - 13:04 - 50 of 747
Is this a cash shell?
Consolidated Profit and Loss Account for the six months ended 30 June 2003
6 Months ended 6 months ended Year ended 31
30 June 2003 30 June 2002 December 2002
(unaudited) (unaudited) (audited)
£'000 £'000 £'000
Turnover - 1,928 17
Cost of sales - 1,312 -
Gross Profit - 616 17
Administrative expenses (35) (1,105) (1,108) Amounts written off investments - - (1,748)
Operating loss (35) (489) (2,839)
Interest payable and similar charges - (24) - Interest receivable and similar income - 3 2
Loss on ordinary activities before taxation (35) (510) (2,837)
Tax on loss on ordinary activities - - -
Loss on ordinary activities after taxation (35) (510) (2,837)
Minority interest - - (22)
Retained loss for the period (35) (510) (2,859)
Loss per ordinary share (0.03p) (0.41p) (2.33p)
Fully diluted loss per ordinary share (0.03p) (0.40p) (2.33p)
£17,000 turnover and £3,000,000 loss? I've seen Room Service dry cleaning vans about London so they must be doing something?
The market size is £55, lol!
deb81e - 15 Oct'03 - 13:07 - 51 of 747
Anybody going to the AGM on MONDAY 20th OCTOBER to vote on the name change (Azure Holdings) and capital reorganisation
mattheworchard - 15 Oct'03 - 13:07 - 52 of 747
approx 3p loss per share, that has to be worth 3p at a corporation tax rate of 40% to a large company in terms of a corporation tax shield.
ie share are worth a max of 1.2p per share to a takeover company.
If the company was to be purchased for 1/4 of the value it would be 0.3p per share,
That is a handsome 200% profit on the current share price.
IMHO
psps - 15 Oct'03 - 13:10 - 53 of 747
£3 mln loss................it must be the set up cost of running the company
this bb is NOT full of DUMB ASSES ..............on the other hand most of us are trying to find out more about this company and its share value.
VERY QUICK - 15 Oct'03 - 13:14 - 54 of 747
If offer drops below 0.110p will buy another 2mill. and keep building my stake.
double6 - 15 Oct'03 - 13:17 - 55 of 747
Are you Maggie???
rarther - 15 Oct'03 - 13:17 - 56 of 747
lol
Diggerdaws - 15 Oct'03 - 13:18 - 57 of 747
Tax losses only available against profits of same trade!
psps - 15 Oct'03 - 13:18 - 58 of 747
VERY QUICK = MAGGIE .......hhhhmmmmm
mattheworchard - 15 Oct'03 - 13:19 - 59 of 747
Diggerdaws, which a reverse takeover would permit!
VERY QUICK - 15 Oct'03 - 13:21 - 60 of 747
PSPS No I'm not maggie but will hold 10% of the company by friday if all goes well and and i can keep buying in 2mill blocks.
pictureframe - 15 Oct'03 - 13:21 - 61 of 747
nwd is a better bet than this, at least they have100k in cash
psps - 15 Oct'03 - 13:23 - 62 of 747
VERY QUICK,
thanks for that .so we will see yur name on the holding list .
OK now ...........nearly 25% of the total shares have traded so far.
so whats going on with RSV.????????
VERY QUICK - 15 Oct'03 - 13:26 - 63 of 747
I guess so. You will have to wait and see regarding this company???? People do stake building for a reason.
Diggerdaws - 15 Oct'03 - 13:28 - 64 of 747
Losses b/f stay with the company making the loss not the group
They can only be releived against future profits of that company from the same trade
Sorry to labour point
psps - 15 Oct'03 - 13:30 - 65 of 747
VERY QUICK,
so whats your reason ?
go on you can tell me.
your secret is safe with me
VERY QUICK - 15 Oct'03 - 13:35 - 66 of 747
No comment??? lets hope and see if my second purchase of 2mill shares goes thru at the end of the day
psps - 15 Oct'03 - 13:36 - 67 of 747
NO FT = NO COMMENT
a 2.5 mln deal
VERY QUICK - 15 Oct'03 - 13:37 - 68 of 747
MM's are so short of stock its making them ill. Thats a 2.5mill M deal to fill my 2mill buy order.
psps - 15 Oct'03 - 13:40 - 69 of 747
Nice one........now i know MM are creating panic selling by dropping the price.
but in turn people are picking up a BARGAIN ? Right
dell314 - 15 Oct'03 - 13:40 - 70 of 747
LOL!
They aren't all short or the offer would have gone up!
Doh!
Rgds
dell
VERY QUICK - 15 Oct'03 - 13:42 - 71 of 747
Correct. A bargain it is offer now 0.100 time to place my third 2mill buy
RBonnier - 15 Oct'03 - 13:42 - 72 of 747
I think someones dumping big time here the price just keeps falling.
Justjus - 15 Oct'03 - 13:44 - 73 of 747
an AIM listing has got to cost more than £125k, hasn't it?
psps - 15 Oct'03 - 13:44 - 74 of 747
OK i have an order for 1.5mln now........its too tempting
pictureframe - 15 Oct'03 - 13:44 - 75 of 747
Share do not go down for no reason. supply and demand
JAN8MM - 15 Oct'03 - 13:47 - 76 of 747
WELL She topped up again ... must be stocking up for some reason.
psps - 15 Oct'03 - 13:47 - 77 of 747
more demand = price falls
OR
more sellers = price falls
nearly 30% stock traded so far and price drops by 44%......hhmm
i better cancel my 1.5 ml buy order
Justjus - 15 Oct'03 - 13:48 - 78 of 747
A MS MARGARET ELIZABETH SAMEA is a director of a Property Developer company from Devon (only listing on 192.com)...
dell314 - 15 Oct'03 - 13:48 - 79 of 747
VERY QUICK - I think you may be correct that MMs are trying to create panic.
It looks like they are struggling to fill as you can sell 1mln online.
Rgds
dell
Good luck with whatever cunning plan you have..
alexicacon - 15 Oct'03 - 13:50 - 80 of 747
Maybe VERY QUICK is selling and not buying?
VERY QUICK - 15 Oct'03 - 13:50 - 81 of 747
that my 2mill buy just gone thru at 12:49pm
Justjus - 15 Oct'03 - 13:52 - 82 of 747
3.75m and you have to declare!
VERY QUICK - 15 Oct'03 - 13:52 - 83 of 747
Alexicacon I'm buying just onto broker to buy another 2mill
Diggerdaws - 15 Oct'03 - 13:54 - 84 of 747
Fundamentally what are you buying?
davidcod - 15 Oct'03 - 13:54 - 85 of 747
just spoke with my broker... he pretty sure there is a BIG seller.
seems crazy this has gone down 44% when a director shareholding has gone thru..??
psps - 15 Oct'03 - 13:54 - 86 of 747
VERTY QUICK,
if you have bought 3 lots of 2 mln today then you have 5% stake.......
so that means your name SHOULD appear on the RNS tomorrow ...
nice to know a famous person
Kamlani - 15 Oct'03 - 13:55 - 87 of 747
very quick same here coming in now dont know why can sell as many as you like but buying limited to 50K something has to be going on in back ground imi said alot of people been calling in due to size problems.imo
alexicacon - 15 Oct'03 - 13:55 - 88 of 747
Just a thought VERY QUICK.
Diggerdaws - 15 Oct'03 - 13:56 - 89 of 747
MM's wont have stock they wont want to hold when it falls apart
Justjus - 15 Oct'03 - 13:57 - 90 of 747
David Cod - Where is this director shareholding?
psps - 15 Oct'03 - 13:57 - 91 of 747
be VERY QUICK folks................
jmillskeel - 15 Oct'03 - 14:01 - 92 of 747
just bought 2973181.
VERY QUICK - 15 Oct'03 - 14:01 - 93 of 747
just got 2mill more at 0.100p that takes my stake to 6mill today
davidcod - 15 Oct'03 - 14:02 - 94 of 747
apologies, not director but... Margaret Samea
psps - 15 Oct'03 - 14:03 - 95 of 747
VERY QUICK,
WOW ........lets see if there is a stake news soon.
VERY QUICK - 15 Oct'03 - 14:03 - 96 of 747
Jmillskell is that 2,973.181
davidcod - 15 Oct'03 - 14:04 - 97 of 747
2.5m MM buy gone thru..
psps - 15 Oct'03 - 14:06 - 98 of 747
thats the fourth 2.5 mln buy by the MM and one for 2 mln
easymoney03 - 15 Oct'03 - 14:09 - 99 of 747
sod it im in again
jmillskeel - 15 Oct'03 - 14:09 - 100 of 747
plus 500000
psps - 15 Oct'03 - 14:10 - 101 of 747
i got my 1 mln as well
alexicacon - 15 Oct'03 - 14:11 - 102 of 747
Margaret Samea's not going to be very happy if this carries on.
rescuer - 15 Oct'03 - 14:12 - 103 of 747
dont own any, and dont want to either, but i've been reading this thread all day and you guy's must have balls the size of blackpool.
best of luck, esp VQ, dont tell me, you liked it so much, you bought the company.
jmillskeel - 15 Oct'03 - 14:13 - 104 of 747
2000002 pending...
shares20032002 - 15 Oct'03 - 14:14 - 105 of 747
just joined the club with 1m. good luck to all regards shares
easymoney03 - 15 Oct'03 - 14:15 - 106 of 747
must admit to buying i mill today but could not buy in one trade,pure speculation but what the hell...
davidcod - 15 Oct'03 - 14:18 - 107 of 747
crazy days....
psps - 15 Oct'03 - 14:18 - 108 of 747
SPECULATE TO ACCUMULATE.
what the hell ...its only money
rescuer - 15 Oct'03 - 14:21 - 109 of 747
how many share are in circulation, it doesn't give a figure on the advfn funds
jmillskeel - 15 Oct'03 - 14:21 - 110 of 747
done...
psps - 15 Oct'03 - 14:25 - 111 of 747
i think its 124 mln shares is issue
rescuer - 15 Oct'03 - 14:29 - 112 of 747
so the comapany is only valued at £124k, LoL, you guys must now colectively own the company. Why dont you pool your collection, take the company over, liquidate it and build a block of flats on there business site, LoL
rarther - 15 Oct'03 - 14:30 - 113 of 747
Guys, if any of you have access to level 2 you can see that EVO have an overhang.
They are on 0.05-0.10, the other two are on 0.09-0.14
The MM trades look like EVO shifting to the other two who will sell at a big mark up.
My bet is we will see a MASSIVE sell after close at a ridiculously low price. My thinking only dyor etc.
rarther - 15 Oct'03 - 14:31 - 114 of 747
not a bad idea rescuer, LOL! where is the business site? im holding a few.
rescuer - 15 Oct'03 - 14:36 - 115 of 747
no idea rather, but i've just been reading thro thr funds, although i've got to say, they are somewhat patchy on advfn, but on equity, liability and asset, they have when all's cashed up £1m so that make them slighlty undervalued to say the least, price should be about 0.9p per share
rescuer - 15 Oct'03 - 14:41 - 116 of 747
there must be a very large sell to report, looking at L2, you're correct with EVO's but looking back thro all the declared trades there's been nothing under .109 sold and with EVO's on the offer at .01, they cant be making anything on any trades, so they must have taken a very large sell, which will be declared after or near to the close on an L trade.
mattheworchard - 15 Oct'03 - 14:41 - 117 of 747
Look at people who invested in Lastminute when it was 2p ...now £2.80
or YOO when it was 0.5p now 38p...
...patience will pay with this share
IMHO
jmillskeel - 15 Oct'03 - 14:44 - 118 of 747
see a rns 2morrow..
psps - 15 Oct'03 - 14:45 - 119 of 747
now just over 36% of the equity has been traded so far.
somebody, somewhere knows something
rarther - 15 Oct'03 - 14:46 - 120 of 747
Key difference being that Lastminute and Yoomedia aren't cash shells with 0 turnover stumbling around in the dark for a way to realise the cash.
davidcod - 15 Oct'03 - 14:46 - 121 of 747
Lastminute has never been 2p you plank
rarther - 15 Oct'03 - 14:48 - 122 of 747
Gerald Stuart Gold 25,201,846 20.29
Ronald Stuart Pearl 18,571,646 14.95
Tryway Investment Limited 7,453,504 6.00
Timothy Dean-Smith 0 5.20
Michael Gold 5,714,280 4.60
Mrs Margaret Samea 5,100,000 4.11
J G Hallsworth 3,919,500 3.17
One of these people must have sold, most of the trades on the trades list look like buys (tens of millions)... could it be one of the directors? (not deramping, I hold)
rarther - 15 Oct'03 - 14:49 - 123 of 747
What will it be tomorrow?...
Gerald Stuart Veryquick 25,201,846 20.29
Ronald Stuart Psps 18,571,646 14.95
Tryway Investment Limited 7,453,504 6.00
Timothy Dean-Smith 0 5.20
Michael Gold 5,714,280 4.60
Mrs Margaret Samea 5,100,000 4.11
J G Hallsworth 3,919,500 3.17
lol!
psps - 15 Oct'03 - 14:50 - 124 of 747
we will find out tomorrow on the RNS
jmillskeel - 15 Oct'03 - 14:52 - 125 of 747
yoo went as low as 0.7p
maxmillion - 15 Oct'03 - 14:54 - 126 of 747
According to Room Service - the company was bought from Room Service Group & liquidation last February and is called Room Service Deliveries. This company is Room Service Group & a cash shell to which Rarther is quite correct BUT it could also prove to be a cheap option to gain an AIM listing especially if the company has found a reverse takeover target. Once stock overhang has been mopped up this will prove interesting !
RBonnier - 15 Oct'03 - 14:55 - 127 of 747
lol !
I think it highly likely both the directors Gold and Pearl have both sold.
psps - 15 Oct'03 - 14:56 - 128 of 747
trades now hotting UP with 42% of shares traded so far.
RBonnier - 15 Oct'03 - 14:58 - 129 of 747
Ive got an A showing on my monitor but with no announcement showing anyone else?
psps - 15 Oct'03 - 14:58 - 130 of 747
jmillskell,
your BUY just come up 2,973,181 on the trades
Tony14 - 15 Oct'03 - 14:59 - 131 of 747
Balance sheet looks very weak with net liabilities, just a thought but maybe a discounted placing to be announced. Watching with interest.
Regards
me me - 15 Oct'03 - 15:00 - 132 of 747
In FOR 2 Mill
jmillskeel - 15 Oct'03 - 15:00 - 133 of 747
look for 2000002 in about 10 mins..
londonmetro - 15 Oct'03 - 15:01 - 134 of 747
We are in for 3 Million.
Just under an RNS
psps - 15 Oct'03 - 15:01 - 135 of 747
jmillskeel,
are these BUYS ?
maxmillion - 15 Oct'03 - 15:01 - 136 of 747
RBonnier :
Only announcement appears to be Mags.
Regards
jmillskeel - 15 Oct'03 - 15:02 - 137 of 747
welcome me me was going to post on the yoo thread didn't want to seem like a ramper.
swizz - 15 Oct'03 - 15:03 - 138 of 747
If the world has gone bonkers and everyone who is buying this makes a killing, would you stick some of your profits into Base Group (BS.), I could do with them having a bit of a run, ONLY JOKING !!
good luck.
btw :- does anyone have a clue what is going on with RSV ? fascinating stuff to watch.
jmillskeel - 15 Oct'03 - 15:04 - 139 of 747
i think so, only 1 big sell yet..
psps - 15 Oct'03 - 15:05 - 140 of 747
Keep watching folks...................
nearlly 50% of shares have changed hands today.
me me - 15 Oct'03 - 15:09 - 141 of 747
psps
dont think your fig are right 1.38 billion is issue. Market cap 1.38 million x 0.1 = 1.38 Billion
rescuer - 15 Oct'03 - 15:09 - 142 of 747
psps >> i think everyone on advfn is watching you.
Kael - 15 Oct'03 - 15:10 - 143 of 747
LOL what the hell is going on!!!
cougar6 - 15 Oct'03 - 15:10 - 144 of 747
10 mill shares bought by director of London Asia Capital. today I am told
Diggerdaws - 15 Oct'03 - 15:11 - 145 of 747
Rescuer 115
The net assets as per 31.12.02 accounts is -131K
Where do you get your 1m from?
Justjus - 15 Oct'03 - 15:13 - 146 of 747
me me - do some maths: 100/5.31 * 6.6m = ~125m in issue!
Tony14 - 15 Oct'03 - 15:14 - 147 of 747
Taken from the results:
3. Earnings per share
The basic earnings per share is calculated on the weighted average number of
shares in issue during the year of 122,870,118 (2001: 395,029,879). The fully
diluted earnings per share takes account of outstanding options which results in
a weighted average number of shares in issue during the year of 122,870,118
(2001: 397,807,679).
jmillskeel - 15 Oct'03 - 15:14 - 148 of 747
taken from iii, credit to the poster.
It is most irregular. Never in the history of this listing, or the previous listing, has one person bought up such huge quantities. Margaret has to be either connected to incumbent parties or she is involved in negotiating the purchase of the business.
Room Service has basically said it is looking for a reversal partner. Now this is just conjecture, and if Margaret is a purely independent, speculative investor I don't wish to imply anything underhand, but it is there a reverse take-over already in discussion that we're not being told about? If Margaret is buying up in full knowledge of discussions, then legally the company should announce those discussions to stop Margaret getting into trouble.
If there are no discussions taking place, perhaps Ms Samea is buying up while it's cheap on the assumption someone will eventually buy the listing and give her a premium on her purchase.
Justjus - 15 Oct'03 - 15:17 - 149 of 747
what was this all about...
3 April 2003
Hanover Capital acquires the debt of Room Service Group PLC
Hanover Capital Group Plc (Hanover or the Company), the AIM quoted mining
investment company, has acquired the outstanding debt of #216,312.35 from the
creditors of Room Service Group PLC. This debt has been acquired for the sum of
#104,041.17. Some of the creditors have agreed to accept ordinary shares of 1p
each in the capital of Hanover (Ordinary Shares) at an issue price of 10p per
share, in full and final settlement of their debts, with the remainder of
#49,500.22 being settled in cash. A total of 545,409 Ordinary Shares will be
issued as a result and Hanover will become the major creditor of Room Service
Group PLC. Application will be made for these new ordinary shares to be admitted
to trading on the Alternative Investment Market of the London Stock Exchange.
It is proposed that Room Service Group PLC will settle its #216,312.35
indebtedness to Hanover in due course by an issue of ordinary shares in Room
Service Group PLC.
rescuer - 15 Oct'03 - 15:19 - 150 of 747
Digger >> said that the funds were sketchy but took the last three blocks,
Fixed assets >>>>>> 0.01
Fixed investment >> 0.07
debtors >>>>>>>>>>> 0.38
cash & securities > 1.15
Total >>>>>>>>>>>>> 1.61
Creditors short >>> 0.41
Creditors long >>>> 0.20
Total >>>>>>>>>>>>> 0.61
Ord Cap reserves >> 1.02
prefs minorities > -0.02
Total >>>>>>>>>>>> £1m
dell314 - 15 Oct'03 - 15:24 - 151 of 747
rescuer - last figures up to June 03 show shareholders funds as minus £173K.
http://www.uk-wire.com/cgi-bin/articles/200309220701059955P.html
maxmillion - 15 Oct'03 - 15:25 - 152 of 747
Now then ??
psps - 15 Oct'03 - 15:25 - 153 of 747
me me ,
shares in issue is NOT 1.36 BLN.
where did you study maths.?????
there are 124 mln shares in issue
me me - 15 Oct'03 - 15:26 - 154 of 747
Offer 0.14
Justjus - 15 Oct'03 - 15:27 - 155 of 747
me me - you need help, since when is 0.095 0.14?
cougar6 - 15 Oct'03 - 15:27 - 156 of 747
10 mill buy to come through
maxmillion - 15 Oct'03 - 15:29 - 157 of 747
Why do I feel the person to buy up the remaining shares will be handed a set of keys ?
Kael - 15 Oct'03 - 15:29 - 158 of 747
lol there's gonna be a lot of RNS's soon...
me me - 15 Oct'03 - 15:29 - 159 of 747
justjus
You must of blinked went to 0.14 then to 0.95
Tony14 - 15 Oct'03 - 15:30 - 160 of 747
Today, Room Service also announced a planned capital reorganisation,
designed as a first step towards placing the company in a position to seek an
acquisition, as it plans to restore some value to shareholders.
Ok a capital reorganisation in the offing, as they probably cannot raise funds as share price below par value. But with share price currently so low then may a bucket load to be issued.
londonmetro - 15 Oct'03 - 15:30 - 161 of 747
tempted to buy another 500,000 just to get onto the RNS board!
psps - 15 Oct'03 - 15:31 - 162 of 747
RNS when ??????
too many shares changing hands
Diggerdaws - 15 Oct'03 - 15:31 - 163 of 747
Rescuer
see september 03 RNS re final accounts 31.12.02 the balance sheet is there
dell314 - 15 Oct'03 - 15:32 - 164 of 747
Justjus - interesting find re Hanover. Could they be shortselling in advance of receipt?
Not sure if it's possible but may explain volume today. Listed holders don't seem large enough to explain this.
Rgds
dell
rarther - 15 Oct'03 - 15:34 - 165 of 747
EVO tick up finally
jmillskeel - 15 Oct'03 - 15:36 - 166 of 747
got my 10..
psps - 15 Oct'03 - 15:36 - 167 of 747
the last hour hour would see more shares change hands....................
ACTION
psps - 15 Oct'03 - 15:37 - 168 of 747
the last hour hour would see more shares change hands....................
ACTION
me me - 15 Oct'03 - 15:37 - 169 of 747
Any way according to ADVFN Market cap is 1.38 million. 1.38 billion shares @ 0.1p = market cap 1.38 million.
If we had 124 million is issue that would value the company @ £124,000
rarther - 15 Oct'03 - 15:40 - 170 of 747
Could be on to something there dell, this looks like too much of a no-brainer to be true... MMs shouldn't have been holding anything substantial so where has half of the company just come from?
cougar6 - 15 Oct'03 - 15:40 - 171 of 747
6mill shares = 4% of company approx,
psps - 15 Oct'03 - 15:41 - 172 of 747
Optimist23 - 15 Oct'03 - 15:44 - 173 of 747
AFN looks good to test 5 pence tomorrow. IMHO,DYOR.
psps - 15 Oct'03 - 15:44 - 174 of 747
6.6 mln shares = 5.31%
Justjus - 15 Oct'03 - 15:44 - 175 of 747
cougar - Mags has 6.6m for a 5.31% holding!
alexicacon - 15 Oct'03 - 15:46 - 176 of 747
psps i think you mean
http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/humanbody/images/mind/disgust/morescie nce_disgust/toilet.jpg
psps - 15 Oct'03 - 15:46 - 177 of 747
heres the 10 mln deal
Tony14 - 15 Oct'03 - 15:47 - 178 of 747
Well something is going on here, 10mil buy, where is the stock coming from?
dell314 - 15 Oct'03 - 15:48 - 179 of 747
There is also mention of a capital reorg with last full results but no detail. I guess you need the hardcopy to receive details.
Rgds
dell
psps - 15 Oct'03 - 15:48 - 180 of 747
thats what i have trying to find out all day.................
something, somewhere knows something..........BUT WHAT IS IT ??????
mattheworchard - 15 Oct'03 - 15:50 - 181 of 747
The whole company has virtually traded in 1 day.
Whats going on??
me me - 15 Oct'03 - 15:51 - 182 of 747
Ok Ok
You lot are right , i was looking at ADVFN figures. In for 2mill+
cougar6 - 15 Oct'03 - 15:54 - 183 of 747
I understand that there might be a fight for contol of this shell, not many shells left
Justjus - 15 Oct'03 - 15:54 - 184 of 747
...but why is there a large dump???
psps - 15 Oct'03 - 15:54 - 185 of 747
me me,
wellcome on board.
i hope you understand maths now
jmillskeel - 15 Oct'03 - 15:56 - 186 of 747
closing volume 92m+
rarther - 15 Oct'03 - 15:58 - 187 of 747
Any guesses for the volume of T trades after close?
jayeshp - 15 Oct'03 - 15:58 - 188 of 747
down she goes.....blub blub blub.
dell314 - 15 Oct'03 - 15:59 - 189 of 747
If RSV's debt of £200k (roughly)that was taken on by Hanover et al. was capitalised at around current shareprice then you would have an additional 200mln shares in circulation.
It could be that Hanover or the other company that took on RSV's debt is flogging their entitlement in advance.
Just a guess
Rgds
Dell
psps - 15 Oct'03 - 15:59 - 190 of 747
total volume at close = 124 mln (ish)
BUT WHY SO HEAVY VOLUMES ?????????????????
maxmillion - 15 Oct'03 - 16:01 - 191 of 747
Question is :-
You`ve all bought at the same price, who will start the freefall sell off when its .5p ?? Why not get together, start an RSV club & nominate a secretary to sit on the board - surely you all must own more than 10% ?
psps - 15 Oct'03 - 16:03 - 192 of 747
maxmillion,
i nominate you to be on the board
maxmillion - 15 Oct'03 - 16:04 - 193 of 747
psps :
TIA... ( I think ) !!
Max
swizz - 15 Oct'03 - 16:04 - 194 of 747
Is it possible for market makers to cancel trades ? and if so, is there a time limit for them to do this ?
psps - 15 Oct'03 - 16:07 - 195 of 747
I have NEVER seen trades like this one ................over 76% of shares traded so far in one company in one day.
TRULY AMAZING
londonmetro - 15 Oct'03 - 16:08 - 196 of 747
Dont know about 10% - nearer 60%!!!
Kael - 15 Oct'03 - 16:08 - 197 of 747
LOL
jmillskeel - 15 Oct'03 - 16:08 - 198 of 747
92mil volume lol,okay i was wrong..
dell314 - 15 Oct'03 - 16:09 - 199 of 747
swizz - what a strange question!
I have heard of MMs cancelling trades through brokers, if they think you have deliberately mislead them by making several trades in quick succession and thus concealed your true intentions.
Obviously they generally only do it if it works against them, as they are lower than pond creatures..
rgds
dell
All IMHO
Paul Miov - 15 Oct'03 - 16:09 - 200 of 747
max, LOL !
Start the election thread, what a shame meastro does not own any of these
Rgds
Maggie Thatch
Optimist23 - 15 Oct'03 - 16:18 - 201 of 747
AFN - 50% rise tomorrow
rarther - 15 Oct'03 - 16:21 - 202 of 747
yes we heard the first time
rarther - 15 Oct'03 - 16:25 - 203 of 747
LOL, there it goes
jmillskeel - 15 Oct'03 - 16:25 - 204 of 747
opening the spread...
psps - 15 Oct'03 - 16:25 - 205 of 747
why 50% rise
rarther - 15 Oct'03 - 16:25 - 206 of 747
edit, hangon
Kael - 15 Oct'03 - 16:26 - 207 of 747
back down again...
rarther - 15 Oct'03 - 16:27 - 208 of 747
what the hell is going on lol
Kael - 15 Oct'03 - 16:27 - 209 of 747
LOL
davidcod - 15 Oct'03 - 16:27 - 210 of 747
..
Kamlani - 15 Oct'03 - 16:30 - 211 of 747
lets see what happens tommorrow now
mattheworchard - 15 Oct'03 - 16:30 - 212 of 747
Which of you idiots bought 5m at 0.095p
I am a holder but not at that level.
rescuer - 15 Oct'03 - 16:32 - 213 of 747
l2 all over the place at the end, hope it pans out for you guys tomorrow, absolute entertainment, thank you.
ps >> re cancellation of trades, check out the "comn" thread, it happened to me yesterday, coz i tried to circumnavigate the nms and comdirect cancelled my trades and charged me for the priveledge. "it's not market ettiquet" they said, lump it or leave it
Ellemaitch - 15 Oct'03 - 16:33 - 214 of 747
L2 - WINS and SCAP have been best bid / worst offer ALL day ; 0.09/0.14 the worst they got : EVO had been at worst 0.05/0.095 and 5 mins before close went to 0.10/0.15 and offered the best offer having seemingly soaked up most of todays action
dell314 - 15 Oct'03 - 16:34 - 215 of 747
With an NMS of only 15k, some of the larger trades could be delayed for days. It appears that more than current equity issue has been traded somehow.
Do you feel lucky??
Rgds
dell
jmillskeel - 15 Oct'03 - 16:34 - 216 of 747
5m less then 5k ?? so what ?
londonmetro - 15 Oct'03 - 16:36 - 217 of 747
anyone bought shares at .95 today please advise dont know if these late ones are sells i think they are poss buys??????????????
mattheworchard - 15 Oct'03 - 16:37 - 218 of 747
They are buys, explaining the rise in offer price.
EVO cleared their overhang at 0.095p
mattheworchard - 15 Oct'03 - 16:37 - 219 of 747
They are buys, explaining the rise in offer price.
EVO cleared their overhang at 0.095p
jmillskeel - 15 Oct'03 - 16:37 - 220 of 747
buys 2.6mil mine
dell314 - 15 Oct'03 - 16:39 - 221 of 747
rescuer - Are you aware that comdirect have a BB on TMF which is answered by comdirect?
I don't see how they can try and use "Market etiquette" as an excuse when it is clearly circumvented by MMs when it suits them. Also I don't see how RSPs can be included in any old boy's agreement from days gone by. Modern systems can react instantly. MMs just squeal when things don't go their way.
However, I note that the updated T&C included a clause to try and prevent rapid dealing in succession.
Rgds
dell
cougar6 - 15 Oct'03 - 16:40 - 222 of 747
lets pool our shares for a statement from company
rarther - 15 Oct'03 - 16:41 - 223 of 747
ChiversJ (ADVFN) - 15 Oct'03 - 15:59 - 15 of 16
Dear All,
Clem Chambers will be appearing live today on CNBC Europe at 1745 and BBC News 24 at 2230
Regards,
James
matto - 15 Oct'03 - 16:44 - 224 of 747
Been some fun here I see. Have to try and put names to nicknames over the next few days as the RNSs roll in.
psps - 15 Oct'03 - 16:48 - 225 of 747
total number of shares traded today was 121 mln (shares in issue 124 mln)
HHHHHHHHHHHHMMMMMMMMMMMMm........food for thought .
has anyone EVER seen trades like this in any company ??????
Justjus - 15 Oct'03 - 16:56 - 226 of 747
psps - it aint over until 5:30!
mattheworchard - 15 Oct'03 - 16:58 - 227 of 747
Markets close at 4.30
rarther - 15 Oct'03 - 16:59 - 228 of 747
isnt it 6.30 ? lol
dell314 - 15 Oct'03 - 17:00 - 229 of 747
LOL!
I expect Justjus knows that. Trades continue to be reported after market close and some several days later...
Rgds
dell
psps - 15 Oct'03 - 17:00 - 230 of 747
Justjus is right .
although markets close at 4.30pm the trades carry as some are reported late
is it poss that the total shares can exceed the shares in issue(i know it sounds silly) ?????
Justjus - 15 Oct'03 - 17:02 - 231 of 747
thankyou! as I speak another 1m...
Kael - 15 Oct'03 - 17:03 - 232 of 747
trades over nms can be reported up to an hour late. I'm not sure about days late though.(then again if it's half the company...)
Justjus - 15 Oct'03 - 17:04 - 233 of 747
now we've done more than cap!
londonmetro - 15 Oct'03 - 17:04 - 234 of 747
Whole company traded!!!!!!!!!
This board seems to own the company - please direct questions via our chairman!
Kael - 15 Oct'03 - 17:04 - 235 of 747
LOL
Kael - 15 Oct'03 - 17:05 - 236 of 747
right noone sell tomorrow or this will go through the floor!
Justjus - 15 Oct'03 - 17:05 - 237 of 747
protected trades can be up to 5 days to be reported, delays an hour or two (when I traded in DTC the delay was 2 hours)
dell314 - 15 Oct'03 - 17:06 - 238 of 747
Kael - I think that trades over 100xNMS can be reported up to 5 days late but that's only from memory.
It's all on the LSE site, if anyone wants to check..
rgds
dell
psps - 15 Oct'03 - 17:08 - 239 of 747
more than 125 mln traded ..............HOW CAN THAT BE ????
londonmetro - 15 Oct'03 - 17:09 - 240 of 747
protected trades need to be marked with a t.delayed trades must be reported within 2 hours of close all trades today marked by m or 0
rarther - 15 Oct'03 - 17:10 - 241 of 747
psps the company can be traded more than once in a day.
If I owned 100,000,000 shares and sold them to the MMs, then they redistributed them between one another (say 25m to one mm and 25m to the other) and then you bought them all later in the day, the volume would be 250,000,000 despite there only being 125m in issue.
matto - 15 Oct'03 - 17:13 - 242 of 747
It is conceivable (although unusual) to have over 100% of shares issue traded particularly if there an even number of buys and sells, each transfer of share from buyer to seller going through an MM. Of course deals between MMs would further exaggerate the number.
However, it does appear that barring MM trades, most reported trade have been buys!
psps - 15 Oct'03 - 17:14 - 243 of 747
rarther,
phew .........thanks for the explanation
i knew my maths was poor
anyway interesting day with RSV and lets see whats happens next
mattheworchard - 15 Oct'03 - 17:19 - 244 of 747
At least there should be a raft of RNSs tomorrow to keep us all entertained.
And who knows a 50% rise in share price!
psps - 15 Oct'03 - 17:26 - 245 of 747
i am surprised there was no RNS today though
cougar6 - 15 Oct'03 - 17:46 - 246 of 747
rns photo distribution takes 8% stake company belongs to george allnutt director of (ldc)
jmillskeel - 15 Oct'03 - 17:49 - 247 of 747
here they come;
RNS Number:9572Q
Room Service Group PLC
15 October 2003
15th October, 2003
Room Service Group Plc ( "the Company")
Notifiable interest
The Company was notified earlier today that, following a purchase of 10,000,000
ordinary shares, Photo Distribution Limited is now beneficially interested in
10,000,000 ordinary shares in the Company, representing 8.05 per cent. of the
issued share capital of the Company.
This information is provided by RNS
The company news service from the London Stock Exchange
END
cougar6 - 15 Oct'03 - 17:50 - 248 of 747
also on the board of epe ?
daza70 - 15 Oct'03 - 18:24 - 249 of 747
any views for tomorrows open? (im a holder)
easymoney03 - 15 Oct'03 - 18:41 - 250 of 747
this will open strongly i expect 30-40% looks good folks...
daza70 - 15 Oct'03 - 18:50 - 251 of 747
easy: i really hope so!! Has anyboby seen trading like this before!!
psps - 15 Oct'03 - 19:25 - 252 of 747
NEVER
Ellemaitch - 15 Oct'03 - 19:28 - 253 of 747
Just had a quick browse at L2 quote changes ; at 16:31 , EVO were showing at 0.12 / 0.17 ; WINS at 0.10/0.15 and SCAP at 0.09/0.14 .
From previous posts regarding persons/companys with a significant interests in RSV , the total (in round figures) being held is approximately 72.5 million out of a maximum £124 million approx . Going through todays trades and bearing in mind that advfn seemed to be a little sluggish with amending their quote changes on the trade log , it seems , that buys amounted to 96m and sells 37m .
SO lets contra them and we are left with 59m shares that are now being held . If we add that to the 72m , the total shares being held is 131m , which is 7m above the alloted share capital If you also filter through the BB and see how many have jumped in with 1-2million purchases , me included , and not so many being frighened out at the mo and used this big dip as their reason for jumping in, it all becomes quite unbalanced. Now , to me there can only be two answers . The first being the obvious one that one of the major holders has dumped their stock and there was , as quite rightly suggested , an overhang that needed filling or 2,the MMs are selling stock they ain't got ,hence the volatility .
How many of you us retail investors ever thought we would have to disclose ourselves with notable holdings in a listed company
Just to end , bit of sad news ....., Sophie Ellis Baxter has been found dead in a french footballers room ... apparently it was murder on zidane's floor !!
jmillskeel - 15 Oct'03 - 19:28 - 254 of 747
how many did vq get was it 6 million ??
Guess we shall see tomorrow..
jmillskeel - 15 Oct'03 - 19:32 - 255 of 747
disclose with notable holdings in a listed company how does that work ?
Is it the investors or the brokers job to disclose ??
double6 - 15 Oct'03 - 19:32 - 256 of 747
EXCUSE MY "SPOILING THE PARTY" - BUT IF THERE ARE 125 MILLION SHARES IN ISSUE @ (SAY) 0.1p (i.e. 1 / 10th of a penny) THE CURRENT MARKET CAP WOULD ONLY BY £125,000.
THE CURRENT MARKET CAP (PER ADVFN) IS £1,250,000 (o.t.a.) - SO SURELY THERE ARE 1.25 BILLION SHARES IN ISSUE - THEREFORE ONLY 10% OF SHARES WERE TRADED TODAY ??????
psps - 15 Oct'03 - 19:34 - 257 of 747
yap if my maths is anything to go by then yes VeryQuick bought 6 mln.
so VQ name should have been in the late RNS
double6 - 15 Oct'03 - 19:35 - 258 of 747
(I appreciate that the earlier RNS today suggests that there are just 125 million, so therefore market cap should just be £125,000 ?????)
easymoney03 - 15 Oct'03 - 19:35 - 259 of 747
never seen this before but its worth the punt a cash shell sells for far more in todays market expect at least 200-300% gain on todays closing price.
psps - 15 Oct'03 - 19:38 - 260 of 747
double6,
dont worry m8...BUT.....i am afraid your maths is wrong.
there are only 124 mln or is it 125 mln shares in issue NOT 1.25 BLN
a stake of 10 mln is 8.05% .....so there you are
Opthalmist - 15 Oct'03 - 19:40 - 261 of 747
double6, the official RNS quoting holdings in company is likely to be more accurate than advfn figures going by past experience, therefore there are indeed 124 million shares in issue (mkt cap 124k)
Ellemaitch - 15 Oct'03 - 19:42 - 262 of 747
it is so simple to work out 10mill shares , which photoDist bought today.is stated as 8.05% of the share capital (check RNS 17:31 so yes , there are £124m(and a few odds) shares and yes , the market cap is a mere £125000 ... ish . this was trading at 0.25 on monday too !
double6 - 15 Oct'03 - 19:42 - 263 of 747
124,000,000 x 0.1p (ie 1/10th of a penny) = £124,000 NOT £1,240,000
SO IS THE MARKET CAP ONLY £124,000 ???
ADVFN STATE £1,240,000.
double6 - 15 Oct'03 - 19:43 - 264 of 747
God - ADVFN - Who'd trust them !!!
me me - 15 Oct'03 - 19:44 - 265 of 747
double6
I thought the same but check out the last RNS
psps - 15 Oct'03 - 19:45 - 266 of 747
didnt you folks know that ADVFN has a great team of MATHS expert in house.
they cant even distinguish between a BUY and a SELL.....hence they stick every deal in the GREEN
me me - 15 Oct'03 - 19:46 - 267 of 747
Double6
I bought 2 mill today
jmillskeel - 15 Oct'03 - 19:48 - 268 of 747
as everybodys trades showed up, i am missing one ?
double6 - 15 Oct'03 - 19:48 - 269 of 747
Just checked the Results:
3. Earnings per share
The basic earnings per share is calculated on the weighted average number of
shares in issue during the year of 122,870,118 (2001: 395,029,879). The fully
diluted earnings per share takes account of outstanding options which results in
a weighted average number of shares in issue during the year of 122,870,118
(2001: 397,807,679).
Yep - ADVFN HAVE GOT THEIR MATHS WRONG !!!
Ellemaitch - 15 Oct'03 - 19:51 - 270 of 747
im holding 3m ... my 3 , me me's 2 , vq's 6 , Maggs 6.6 , PhotoD's 10 , well thats 27.6 for starters or 22.2% of the total share capital . Any one else ... worth totting up here ( if poss ) to see whetherthe MMs have sold stock that they aint got !!
double6 - 15 Oct'03 - 19:51 - 271 of 747
Wish I'd bought @ 0.1p today, and not waited for any further falls - continued buying tomorrow could make it VERY interesting....
me me - 15 Oct'03 - 19:53 - 272 of 747
Ellemaitch
Good idea me hold 2,212,440
me me - 15 Oct'03 - 19:55 - 273 of 747
Might buy another 2,787,560 in the morning round it up to 5 mill 4% ish
Ellemaitch - 15 Oct'03 - 19:57 - 274 of 747
meme -u only want over 3% so ure names in lights don't u ? ;-) YOO has been quiet last few days too (thank god) couldnt deal with both at once !!!
jmillskeel - 15 Oct'03 - 19:57 - 275 of 747
Ellemaitch holding 10073183
double6 - 15 Oct'03 - 20:00 - 276 of 747
Ellemaitch - holding 000000000.
Tempted to buy some though...
double6 - 15 Oct'03 - 20:00 - 277 of 747
Sorry - that should just be 00000000.....
jmillskeel - 15 Oct'03 - 20:01 - 278 of 747
its your type of share isn't it double6 ??
jmillskeel - 15 Oct'03 - 20:01 - 279 of 747.
Opthalmist - 15 Oct'03 - 20:01 - 280 of 747
Don't forget all the director's holdings as well!
Ellemaitch - 15 Oct'03 - 20:03 - 281 of 747
gon for a curry , will have a tott up later i think , unless some1 has b4 . be very interesting ad it will at least tell all BB posters whetherthere is any avalable stock or wheter the MMs are scrambling for some !
double6 - 15 Oct'03 - 20:04 - 282 of 747
jm - aye - sick as a chip that I missed it at 0.1p, relying on ADVFN's data - if I'd realised its market cap was only 125k I'd have been in like a shot....
double6 - 15 Oct'03 - 20:05 - 283 of 747
jm - with the "Cash Shells" being the talk of the town again, are there any other out there that interest you ??
singinsmythe - 15 Oct'03 - 20:09 - 284 of 747
This is gonna sink like a stone tommorow .0006-.0008 if your lucky.
jmillskeel - 15 Oct'03 - 20:17 - 285 of 747
There was a reason that you could buy so many shares today, the mm can't sell shares they don't have, not to this amount anyway.
double6 - 15 Oct'03 - 20:20 - 286 of 747
hmm...
Kael - 15 Oct'03 - 20:24 - 287 of 747
there's always a reason. mm's do sell shares they don't have, but you are quite right I don't see why they would take such a position on a tiny stock. looks like we will know tomorrow, directors prolly sold their share.
jmillskeel - 15 Oct'03 - 20:29 - 288 of 747
Even if one of director have sold there still been 133 million shares traded for no reason ??
We shall see...
londonmetro - 15 Oct'03 - 20:52 - 289 of 747
even if the biggest two directors sold it still would not be enough.
Bought 3,000,000 myself.
Sorely tempted to buy another 2,000,000 tomorrow - just to have the satisfaction of seeing my name in lights on an RNS!
dont forget would not surprise me if the lady also bought some more.
wierd thing is in the past have sometimes bought £40,000 + of stock in a company.In this case would trigger a bid!?
Seeing as share buying can be stressful its good sometimes to just buy even on a speculative punt for the hell of it.
PS For what it is worth - this company is not even listed on the AIM - its listed on the MAIN MARKET.
Just think how much it would cost you to float a company onto the main market.
For what,£40,000,you can buy this and reverse takeover it.I am convinced that that is what is going on here.
Someone has discovered this bit of information.
All IMHO
Kael - 15 Oct'03 - 20:54 - 290 of 747
well hold on, most people on this board own a lil bit of it. from what was posted before - at least 22%?
'scuse me for being a bit thick but what exactly will a reverse takeover involve? In terms for the large majority of shareholders on board here atm?
VERY QUICK - 15 Oct'03 - 23:16 - 291 of 747
Its been a crazy day here today lets see wot tomoro brings for us???
VERY QUICK - 15 Oct'03 - 23:17 - 292 of 747
Shall have to ring the registrars tomoro to let them know i own 6 million shares. My AV 0.111p. Hope it comes up on the RNS. Was looking to buy 10 mill but offer now 0.140p
VERY QUICK - 15 Oct'03 - 23:31 - 293 of 747
Infact.. why was my 6 mill holding not on the late RNS???
easymoney03 - 15 Oct'03 - 23:33 - 294 of 747
just for the figures im in for 1 million and fully expect a large bounce soon
shiningstar - 15 Oct'03 - 23:54 - 295 of 747
okay guys. What does this company do at present. their last set of financial statements appear to show the company to be a shell. Am i missing something?
Opthalmist - 15 Oct'03 - 23:56 - 296 of 747
Ok, its a shell, but on the main market for less than £150k! Can you find one cheaper?
rocket fuel - 16 Oct'03 - 01:48 - 297 of 747
to have a total market cap traded you must have at least nr 50% sold for the other 50% to be mopped up. it must be either a combination of majority shareholders selling, for example: Gerald Stuart Gold ,Ronald Stuart Pearl and Michael Gold have approx 50 million shares.
or perhaps the retial punters who got caught out on last weeks ramp up and ended up owning the other 50% between them have decided to jump off the pyramid and offloaded it to you guys.
anyway, all will be revealed in the next two days with the comming rns onslaught.
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psps - 16 Oct'03 - 05:05 - 299 of 747
it should be a very interesting day and watch a few names appear on the RNS today.
it seems from the posts on this bb that all in all we all own just over 25% of the company.
VERY QUICK,
you better tell the stock exchange about your near 5% stake
jmillskeel - 16 Oct'03 - 08:02 - 300 of 747
broker should do it for you.
psps - 16 Oct'03 - 08:03 - 301 of 747
no news yet
psps - 16 Oct'03 - 08:19 - 302 of 747
NO NEWS
NO TRADE
NO ONE AROUND
londonmetro - 16 Oct'03 - 08:25 - 303 of 747
Trades could be delayed 1 hour - as yesterday.
VERY QUICK - 16 Oct'03 - 08:26 - 304 of 747
No shares bought or sold, I wonder why????? there are none left to buy HA HA HA
VERY QUICK - 16 Oct'03 - 08:27 - 305 of 747
Still waiting for my RNS news on my 5% holding.
maxmillion - 16 Oct'03 - 08:28 - 306 of 747
Its a waiting game now I`m afraid but believe me - after yesterday all eyes and trigger fingers will be watching & waiting !
Max
davidcod - 16 Oct'03 - 08:29 - 307 of 747
25k max to buy online for me..
jmillskeel - 16 Oct'03 - 08:32 - 308 of 747
My guess is that folks do not want to buy for more than .11p...
VERY QUICK - 16 Oct'03 - 08:35 - 309 of 747
Directors hold around 50 mill shares, 10 mill bought by Photo Dis yesterday, I bought 6 mill, 6.6 mill by M, Samea and 133 mill traded yesterday how are the MM's going to deal with that when there is not enough stock for everybody who bought yesterday??????
deb81e - 16 Oct'03 - 08:40 - 310 of 747
I hold 4m as well
maxmillion - 16 Oct'03 - 08:40 - 311 of 747
offer up
VERY QUICK - 16 Oct'03 - 08:40 - 312 of 747
The only way the MM's are going to fill all the buy orders from yesterday is to but the Bid up to 0.500p to bring out the sellers for stock????
VERY QUICK - 16 Oct'03 - 08:41 - 313 of 747
Sorry Deb81e i missed u out.
Justjus - 16 Oct'03 - 08:43 - 314 of 747
VQ - you mean 0.05p!
Sojourno - 16 Oct'03 - 08:43 - 315 of 747
Hello Chaps! Fascinating job you're doing here, the whole World has been watching it seems.
Nothing malicious, but quite funny:-
GOOD LUCK!!!
VERY QUICK - 16 Oct'03 - 08:44 - 316 of 747
JUSTJUS No i mean half a pence, Offer up the MM's do not want you to buy anymore they are in the sh*t sorting this one out.
abbij - 16 Oct'03 - 08:47 - 317 of 747
L2 please
JAN8MM - 16 Oct'03 - 08:47 - 318 of 747
I sniff a RNS.... let's hope it's a good one.
mattheworchard - 16 Oct'03 - 08:50 - 319 of 747
Full page on Room service in the Metro newspaper today, looks like they are still in business.
dell314 - 16 Oct'03 - 08:51 - 320 of 747
VERY QUICK - do you honestly believe that MMs sold practically the entire equity issue just for the hell of it and are now short?
LOL!
Usually the offer will tick up when only 50% of the sell volume has gone through, so there may even be more stock to clear.
This all suggests that someone believes they have the right to sell a large amount of new stock, unless you have a better theory.
Rgds
dell
psps - 16 Oct'03 - 08:51 - 321 of 747
the first RNS .........hhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmm
should have had at least one out by now.
VER QUICK,
i am anxious to see your name on it
Justjus - 16 Oct'03 - 08:52 - 322 of 747
VQ - if they sold themselves short yesterday then a drop to 0.05p is on the cards to regain stock, although I believe there was a seller, otherwise the offer would have rocketed back towards 0.3p!
safman - 16 Oct'03 - 08:53 - 323 of 747
the only RNS u will get is that of someones holdings in the company...even the directors are selling at this lowly price.. however the impt thing here is that there may not be enough shares.. hence a hike in price will have to happen...
mms will restrict buying to slow that process down and for ppl to lose interest..
laughing away..
good luck.. need a bit of humour..
cougar6 - 16 Oct'03 - 08:54 - 324 of 747
What does Metro say ?
dell314 - 16 Oct'03 - 08:56 - 325 of 747
psps - reporting of holdings to a company can take up to 5 days and then the company have a further 24hrs to notify, so don't hold your breath...
Rgds
dell
jmillskeel - 16 Oct'03 - 08:57 - 326 of 747
large amount of new stock ??
where from, this ??
RNW/GBR/
RNS Number:5967J
Hanover Capital Group PLC
03 April 2003
3 April 2003
Hanover Capital acquires the debt of Room Service Group PLC
Hanover Capital Group Plc (Hanover or the Company), the AIM quoted mining
investment company, has acquired the outstanding debt of £216,312.35 from the
creditors of Room Service Group PLC. This debt has been acquired for the sum of
£104,041.17. Some of the creditors have agreed to accept ordinary shares of 1p
each in the capital of Hanover (Ordinary Shares) at an issue price of 10p per
share, in full and final settlement of their debts, with the remainder of
£49,500.22 being settled in cash. A total of 545,409 Ordinary Shares will be
issued as a result and Hanover will become the major creditor of Room Service
Group PLC. Application will be made for these new ordinary shares to be admitted
to trading on the Alternative Investment Market of the London Stock Exchange.
It is proposed that Room Service Group PLC will settle its £216,312.35
indebtedness to Hanover in due course by an issue of ordinary shares in Room
Service Group PLC.
Ron Lowenthal, executive director of Hanover, commented on the proposals:
"The acquisition of the debt from the creditors of Room Service Group PLC
provides Hanover with the opportunity to become a substantial shareholder in
Room Service Group PLC in due course which we view as beneficial to Hanover."
-Ends-
For further information please contact:
Ronald Lowenthal Simon Robinson/ Ana Ribeiro
Hanover Capital Group Plc Parkgreen Communications
Tel: 0870 732 2208 020 7287 5544
This information is provided by RNS
The company news service from the London Stock Exchange
END
ACQUUUGPCUPWGGW
[ISIN]GB0032084146/GB0031164659////
[PTY]3[CTRY]GB/GB////[SEDOL]/////
1125 03 Apr 03
psps - 16 Oct'03 - 09:00 - 327 of 747
yah but thta was way back in APRIL 2003.
dell314
thanks for that cause i was about to choke as i was holding my breath
Justjus - 16 Oct'03 - 09:00 - 328 of 747
they would have to announce issue of new stock before Hanover would have a chance to dump it!
VERY QUICK - 16 Oct'03 - 09:04 - 329 of 747
Here come the first buys 1 mill just gone thru.
VERY QUICK - 16 Oct'03 - 09:05 - 330 of 747
Thats 1.7 mill buys already???
psps - 16 Oct'03 - 09:06 - 331 of 747
when will ADVFN learn to put it in the right coloum....
they stcik all deals in the GREEN........ thus misleading investors
VERY QUICK - 16 Oct'03 - 09:09 - 332 of 747
PSPS. just look at the price 0.120 and 0.130 these are buys.
Skiboy10 - 16 Oct'03 - 09:09 - 333 of 747
Hi
I noticed this one yesterday and thinking of buying in.
Any thoughts as to what we are looking at here?
Reverse takeover maybe?
Thanks in advance.
Justjus - 16 Oct'03 - 09:11 - 334 of 747
how can it mislead in the '?' column? If they wrongly put it under buy or sell after 1 hour delay then it would be mis-leading. For them to do it properly they would have to hold prices every second, for every stock!
rocket fuel - 16 Oct'03 - 09:19 - 335 of 747
there is no volume so far because you lot now own the stock that was being dumped.
psps - 16 Oct'03 - 09:24 - 336 of 747
this bb owns over 25% of RSV now (IMHO)
safman - 16 Oct'03 - 09:27 - 337 of 747
yeah.. just make SURE guys .. that u don'y buy so much, so you'd have to make a mandatory offer for the company..!!
LOL!
psps - 16 Oct'03 - 09:29 - 338 of 747
we allready have made an offer for .3p but they refused it
VERY QUICK - 16 Oct'03 - 09:36 - 339 of 747
Nearly 3 million buys now.
Time To Share - 16 Oct'03 - 09:39 - 340 of 747
I have read through most of the posts this am and i think JMILLSKEEL could be right regarding "jmillskeel - 16 Oct'03 - 08:57 - 326 of 335" reason being, it was EVO who were selling all the stock yesterday so i guess they must be dumping on behalf of ?Hanover Capital?..."Following the assignment of the debts referred to above to Hanover, the Company
will accordingly owe #216,312.35 to Hanover and has agreed with Hanover to
settle that indebtedness in due course by an issue of ordinary shares in the
capital of the Company."(rns 01/04/2003)http://www.advfn.com/p.php?pid=nmona&cb=1066292203&a rticle=4474795&symbol... the question is how many shares will/did Hanover get for the #216,312.35 debt.? I may be totally wrong on this but it may explain yesterday`s volume. Current L2 2 v 1 guess who`s on the offer good luck to you all.
psps - 16 Oct'03 - 09:40 - 341 of 747
VERY QUICK,
u own 5% so where is the RNS then ?
yesterday someone bought 10 mln and the stake was declared on RNS on the same day.u know what i mean
RBonnier - 16 Oct'03 - 09:48 - 342 of 747
You lot are just buying Hanovers stock when the buying dries up Evostick will keep lowering the offer until the shares are all bought note the bid is below yesterdays .1p offer mms are likely to cave the price in whilest there is buying interest.
VERY QUICK - 16 Oct'03 - 09:51 - 343 of 747
PSPS can take upto 5 days to release info. Spoke to my broker this AM and its upto them to put the info foreward to the LSE.
psps - 16 Oct'03 - 09:54 - 344 of 747
ask them to hurry up will ya.
VERY QUICK - 16 Oct'03 - 09:59 - 345 of 747
PSPS. I would also love to see my name on the RNS. So guess i'll just have to wait?
VERY QUICK - 16 Oct'03 - 10:00 - 346 of 747
Who's the sad person who sold 1000 shares.
psps - 16 Oct'03 - 10:02 - 347 of 747
thats not even enough to buy a sandwich
VERY QUICK - 16 Oct'03 - 10:07 - 348 of 747
Take a look at OST good prospects with this one on next good news.
VERY QUICK - 16 Oct'03 - 10:08 - 349 of 747
Also take a look at AFD on next news could well hit the jackpot if rich diamond strike pays off.
garbut - 16 Oct'03 - 10:09 - 350 of 747
You can now sell 500K online but only buy 25K.
GB
VERY QUICK - 16 Oct'03 - 10:17 - 351 of 747
I bet you can sell 500k on line they neeeeeed your stock but are not going to get it at this stupid BID price.
VERY QUICK - 16 Oct'03 - 10:26 - 352 of 747
Thats 4 mill buys and 1k sells today and no tick up.
psps - 16 Oct'03 - 10:27 - 353 of 747
strange day today
Monomono - 16 Oct'03 - 10:33 - 354 of 747
If the debt bought by Hanover of £216k odd has been converted into ordinary shares as suggested by JMILLSKEEL and Time To Share, then what number of additional shares in issue would this equate to?
At the current price, that would equate (very roughly) to 216m new shares. And that is assuming that they are issued at the current price - and therefore without Hanover obtaining any premium for the purchase of the debt, which I think is unlikely.
Does this explain the lack of RNSs about additional notifable holdings? Does this mean that you need an extra million or two of shares to deserve an RNS?
The only problem I have is that there has been no RNS announcing the issue of new shares - can anyone confirm whether there needs to be an announcement confirming the placement before the new shares can be sold on?
MM
psps - 16 Oct'03 - 10:40 - 355 of 747
5 mln .....thats got to be a sell
jmillskeel - 16 Oct'03 - 10:50 - 356 of 747
rsv cannot issue new shares with out a RNS, its against LSE rules imo..
5
cougar6 - 16 Oct'03 - 10:51 - 357 of 747
When is the AGM ?
VERY QUICK - 16 Oct'03 - 10:58 - 358 of 747
PSPS. that 5 mill i'm not sure but could be a buy and a good price. anyone share my view
VERY QUICK - 16 Oct'03 - 10:59 - 359 of 747
AGM on the 20th October am i correct in saying so?
psps - 16 Oct'03 - 10:59 - 360 of 747
OK so here we are lotta lotta buys (we think).
so why share price dont move ?
VERY QUICK - 16 Oct'03 - 11:09 - 361 of 747
If offer goes back to 0.100p shall buy another 6 mill ha ha ha cant wait?
No i want to see the Bid at 0.140 and offer at 0.160 by end of the week. Here's dreaming.
cougar6 - 16 Oct'03 - 11:12 - 362 of 747
any one going to agm
cougar6 - 16 Oct'03 - 11:14 - 363 of 747
would like to compile list of our shareholding on this board. could you email me with your approx holdings. cougar601@hotmail.com
VERY QUICK - 16 Oct'03 - 11:19 - 364 of 747
Offer now down to 0.120p they want you to buy more!!!!!!!!
VERY QUICK - 16 Oct'03 - 11:20 - 365 of 747
Cougar6 u know my holding 6 mill at the moment.
londonmetro - 16 Oct'03 - 11:21 - 366 of 747
Cougar6 - hold 3,000,000
saves an e-mail!
psps - 16 Oct'03 - 11:22 - 367 of 747
Cougar6,
my holding is peanuts then at only 497,777
dell314 - 16 Oct'03 - 11:25 - 368 of 747=
It's true that application has to be made for new stock to be admitted to the LSE, which would have meant an RNS but if one of the companies that purchased RSV's debt had agreed an issue price/qty in principal to capitalise that debt(anywhere between 200mln at 0.1p to 1bln at 0.02p possible), it could be possible that they are hedging by selling an equivelant quantity in advance of issue.
Rgds
dell
jmillskeel - 16 Oct'03 - 11:25 - 369 of 747
If there been another 200+ million issued than its pointless, somebody said there was a write up in "metro" can anyone post it.
Skiboy10 - 16 Oct'03 - 11:26 - 370 of 747
I'm in for 500K.
deb81e - 16 Oct'03 - 11:27 - 371 of 747
cougar 6
Holding 4,000,000
dell314 - 16 Oct'03 - 11:28 - 372 of 747
jmillskeel - we are assuming that the £200k debt may be capitalised at 0.1p per share. If there was an agreement prior to latest rise it could have been much lower, implying a much larger potential issue of new stock.
Rgds
dell
Have any of you new stakeholders even bothered to investigate the capital reorganisation circular that was supposedly issued recently??
cougar6 - 16 Oct'03 - 11:31 - 373 of 747
board can count for 28 mil shares at current tab
jmillskeel - 16 Oct'03 - 11:32 - 374 of 747
so are you saying there could be upto 350 million shares based on 0.06pish..
FatherFrost - 16 Oct'03 - 11:36 - 375 of 747
cougar6 I hold 1mil
RBonnier - 16 Oct'03 - 11:39 - 376 of 747
Thats exactly right 350 milion at .06p thats what I said yesterday expect the price to move to this over the next few days.
Stop buying this worthless rubbish until at least this level when you will have a chance of making a profit.
dell314 - 16 Oct'03 - 11:39 - 377 of 747
jmillskeel - I'm as much in the dark as you are but this stock price was as low as 0.2p recently according to ADVFN.
It amazes me that everyone is diving in with practically no attempt to understand what is happening.
I've had a good run of knifecatching this last year and observed the offer rises noticeably as the stock overhang dwindles. With the entire company apparently traded this should be rising and it isn't, implying there is still a good amount of stock to sell.
I am guessing that the low online buy figures are due to the MM that has the lion's share of stock not being well connected to the leading RSPs used by most brokers.
I am watching with interest.
Good luck to the brave!
Rgds
dell
Kamlani - 16 Oct'03 - 11:49 - 378 of 747
Rbonnier if thats the case then why are maggie and photo dist buying shares at this price?there must be more to it then simply the price is going to drop due to available info at the time.imo
cougar6 - 16 Oct'03 - 11:51 - 379 of 747
There is a deal on the table for this company, so it wont go bust, and any deal will be soon, so down side is min
Ellemaitch - 16 Oct'03 - 11:55 - 380 of 747
comdirect letting you deal 2,000,000 at the moment . as i mentioned in a post last night , with Photos and MAggies 16.6m , VQ has 6 , i have 3 , meme has 2 a few other 1m i have seen ,deb81 with 4m , well that is , thats almost 32m out the system straight away . How long do the MMs get before they are legally obliged to produce share certs cos surely they can't just sit in negative ?
Beastman - 16 Oct'03 - 11:56 - 381 of 747
RBonnier, where did you get your info from regarding your post 376.
Is 350 Million at .06 fact or rumour.
Thanks
cougar6 - 16 Oct'03 - 11:58 - 382 of 747
Just a point the company is not full listed but aim
Kamlani - 16 Oct'03 - 12:05 - 383 of 747
Does anyone have a website address for room service
Justjus - 16 Oct'03 - 12:09 - 384 of 747
so you haven't bothered to try the obvious?
when you do, this is the defunct subsidiary of the Room Service Group, don't reckon the Group have one!
Kamlani - 16 Oct'03 - 12:10 - 385 of 747
i've tried a search for it couldnt find anything well i did find a site that can deliver your food to your house anytime but charge 4.50 and you have to live in london.
Justjus - 16 Oct'03 - 12:11 - 386 of 747
that was it, you've found it, I've even seen the vans (not this year!)
dell314 - 16 Oct'03 - 12:19 - 387 of 747
Kam - why do you assume that people with notifiable holdings know more than anyone else on this thread?
This isn't BP or TSCO. You can get a notifiable holding for a few grand, which may be nothing more than a speculative punt for investors with a reasonable portfolio.
rgds
dell
Kamlani - 16 Oct'03 - 12:21 - 388 of 747
cheers dell but i just wanted to confirm the agm remark earlier today for the 20th i cant find anything relating to a agm.
rescuer - 16 Oct'03 - 12:31 - 389 of 747
i think the world is still watching this thread, and we hope that you guys have struck gold, the entertainment factor alone is priceless, but just a thought, with all this buying and still no significant changes in the price and to be fair, should this go back up to 0.5 or even 1p all you guys will bail out with huge profits, but not all will get out in time. You clearly are all traders whom look for opportunity and reading some of your profiles alot of you buy in to safer stocks as well and have been around for some time. So with that in mind and no doubt you'll (most) will be in to CGT territory for this March / April, why dont you collectivley go on and buy the company. So for 12 of you to stump up about £10k or so each. For 10K you'll get every news paper in the world wanting your story, you'll be featured on all TV and radio newscasts and the odd one or two of you will no doubt be asked to do live interviews on the likes of Richard and Judy, Mel and Des etc, the price of fame £10k.
Headline "ADVFN daytraders buy company"
A group of educated and full time day traders inadvertantyly bought a small London based company, after comarardary took over their usual trading patterns. It was only when they realised they had purchsed 25% of the company, in a 3 hour trading frenzie, that they sat back and contemplated the longer term effects of their actions. On trader know as "Very Quick", brought the dirty dozen togther, with a plan to takeover the company.
Reporter from the times "this highlights the power of todays daytraders and shows the power base these individuals have when they come together as one"
Editors bit, "well everyone got excited about the possibilities, that one can simply purchase a company thro you home PC, the longer term knockon for small cap companies could be hurrendous. It's quite clear from today that the financial insitutions have a much harder game to play, as they contend with the faceless traders sitting at home."
In a further comment it also went on to say "that the FSA were looking at the situation".
Go on boys buy the bloody company. The world is still watching.
BTW >> from my spelling replace the word Times with the word Guardian.
Good Luck to all
Paul Miov - 16 Oct'03 - 12:42 - 390 of 747
rescuer, nice post
LOL ! go on boys buy it, you could make a mint in publicity also all those white van men would be at your beck and call. For 10 grand you can only hire about a third of a butler in London or if you buy this company you would get a fleet of slaves, bargain.
deb81e - 16 Oct'03 - 12:42 - 391 of 747
nice one, rescuer
psps - 16 Oct'03 - 12:53 - 392 of 747
link for RSV website:
http://www.cube8.com
singinsmythe - 16 Oct'03 - 12:53 - 393 of 747
Fascinating to watch as this unfolds and I sincerely hope that it works out for you all although I am still giving this one a wide berth. Here's the website in case anyone needs it http://www.roomservice.co.uk/ ps. this put me off straight away, at least one section had no products and when I clicked on "food" and entered my post code (in london) nothing happened ! If this company has any value at all it must surely be as a cheap vehicle for an aim listing, I just wonder how many shares are really out there ? Once again good luck.
londonmetro - 16 Oct'03 - 12:56 - 394 of 747
Great idea - buy a 12th for 10K
Give 10 interviews and charge £1k a time - stake bought for nothing.
the idea has merit.....
Sojourno - 16 Oct'03 - 12:59 - 395 of 747
rescuer... B E A U T Y !!
Has anybody tried phoning Room Service for comment? ... or Working Lunch?
RoomService Deliveries Ltd.
65 Maygrove Road
London. NW6 2EH
Tel: 0207 644 6666
Fax: 0207 644 6644
www.roomservice.co.uk
maxmillion - 16 Oct'03 - 12:59 - 396 of 747
singinsmythe :
The company you mentioned USED to be a part of the Cube8 group that then went onto become Roomservice Group along with a massive share dilution of 10 - 1. The actual Roomservice business went into liquidation in February 2003, was sold and now trades as Room Service Deliveries - the site that you discovered.
This company is now only a cash shell called Room Service Group.
Regards
dell314 - 16 Oct'03 - 13:02 - 397 of 747
LOL!
We seem to be losing track of the fact that this is a non-trading shell.
If you think you now have part ownership of a set of vans, butlers and cute maids, pinch yourself and wake up!
You have part ownership of £137k of debt. EV is roughly £250k or roughly the alleged value of a clean shell.
If there is a large dilution as seems apparent, it may even be overvalued.
I'm only guessing and know no more than any of you, so DYOR.
Rgds
dell
singinsmythe - 16 Oct'03 - 13:07 - 398 of 747
max thx for straightening that out, I stand corrected, in the overall scheme of things though it still dosen't change much, still a risky play, but generating no cash.
maxmillion - 16 Oct'03 - 13:08 - 399 of 747
Forgot to mention my local lighthouse is looking for an AIM listing due to its overnight success.
Perhaps it could be reversed into this co. and aptly renamed " A Room with a View ". ??
Max
psps - 16 Oct'03 - 13:10 - 400 of 747
indeed VERY RISKY
but then why would folks build up stakes of 8% and 5% in the last week ???
and then the shares keep falling
jmillskeel - 16 Oct'03 - 13:14 - 401 of 747
so as anybody bought any more shares today here ?
JAN8MM - 16 Oct'03 - 13:16 - 402 of 747
Something is brewing, there seems to be mention all over the show about RSV and with people building up stakes even more to look forward to. It's going down on buys and it seems to be very risky but yet so tempting.
mattheworchard - 16 Oct'03 - 13:16 - 403 of 747
We seem to be losing sight of the companies value here:
Tax losses of approx 3p per share, and AIM company worth approx 0.10p per share.
Even with a dilution, shares could be worth up to 3p.
IMHO
Beastman - 16 Oct'03 - 13:19 - 404 of 747
Looking at the trades today I bet the people who bought at 0.14 are pissed off buy price now 0.1 and to sell 0.09. They bought on a spread of over 50% lol
psps - 16 Oct'03 - 13:19 - 405 of 747
another 25% drop
pictureframe - 16 Oct'03 - 13:19 - 406 of 747
Wouldnt be suprised to see a RNS stating its suspended. They was its tanking on all your buying looks that way
dell314 - 16 Oct'03 - 13:21 - 407 of 747
Matthew - If your theory were true every dog company that went out of business with huge losses would be snapped up as a potential taxsaver!
For a start, trading tax losses can only count against continuing business in the same field of operation.
Rgds
dell
psps - 16 Oct'03 - 13:22 - 408 of 747
down 29.2% and still falling
matto - 16 Oct'03 - 13:22 - 409 of 747
Does anyone know the date of the AGM/EGM?
RBonnier - 16 Oct'03 - 13:23 - 410 of 747
See what I mean its falling to 0.06p and it doesnt matter how many shares are bought this will happen.
mattheworchard - 16 Oct'03 - 13:25 - 411 of 747
Why would Photodistribution Ltd sink £10k into a company, if they had no intention of major stake building.
Company has already been liquidated, and emerged as a clean cash shell, ready for a reverse takeover.
cougar6 - 16 Oct'03 - 13:30 - 412 of 747
I understand that a food company is looking at the tax loss before a bid
psps - 16 Oct'03 - 13:30 - 413 of 747
revoekat esrever
maxmillion - 16 Oct'03 - 13:33 - 414 of 747
Could I just add that MM`s raise & lower prices on the basis of information available in the public domain. No info - no panic. For a 50% + drop where has the info come from with no available RNS`s ? Stinks...
ALSO - If there is so many f*****g shares available, surely to give investors some idea the NMS should be increased to give them a clue ?
FSA - hellooo...
dell314 - 16 Oct'03 - 13:41 - 415 of 747
maxmillion - MMs react to info when it is there, otherwise they react to orderflow. Price dropping means large seller(s)..
NMS is not set by MMs, it is reviewed by LSE on a periodic basis relating to normal market size(funnily enough!).
Rgds
dell
maxmillion - 16 Oct'03 - 13:45 - 416 of 747
1 : Large sellers RNS appears after the final 3 shares sold.
2 : Zillions of shares suddenly appear and LSE aren`t informed to increase NMS.
3 : Roll on AGM - hammertime ?
RBonnier - 16 Oct'03 - 13:50 - 417 of 747
This is falling like a stone because it only has a grand in the bank owes a fortune which has been paid back in shares which are worthless and being dumped at any price to cut losses.This is a complete no hoper imo.
psps - 16 Oct'03 - 13:51 - 418 of 747
will they offer their own sandwiches at lunch
and then dry clean clothes after the AGM ?????????
RBonnier - 16 Oct'03 - 13:53 - 419 of 747
I will be at the agm selling rotten eggs at 10p a go!
psps - 16 Oct'03 - 13:55 - 420 of 747
rotten eggs in sandwiches ...............give it to MAGGIE
maxmillion - 16 Oct'03 - 13:56 - 421 of 747
Could be the largest tree shake in LSE History courtesy of the Jolly Green Giant !
Jeff_V - 16 Oct'03 - 13:59 - 422 of 747
Que?
davidcod - 16 Oct'03 - 14:05 - 424 of 747
glad i only got 250,000 of these.
see you all at the AGM... i will be the one with the big beard and semi-automatic pistol.
psps - 16 Oct'03 - 14:12 - 425 of 747
and the drop is 33.3%
semi-auto pistol........nah .......
get one fully auto machine gun and aim them at the rotten eggs so that the liquid falls on the directors............WOW what i sight it will be
pictureframe - 16 Oct'03 - 14:13 - 426 of 747
Why is the directors fault ? You all bought this you were not forced.
Jeff_V - 16 Oct'03 - 14:13 - 427 of 747
bottom?
Purplehelmut - 16 Oct'03 - 14:18 - 428 of 747
Read this if you want to understand what's going on with RSV....
guysands - 16 Oct'03 - 12:02 - 24894 of 24895
Thought you lot light like to read this:
THE DEADLY ART OF STOCK MANIPULATION...
In every profession, there are probably a dozen or two major rules. Knowing them is what separates the professional from the amateur. Not knowing them at all? Well, let’s put it this way: How safe would you feel if you suddenly found yourself piloting (solo) a Boeing 747 as it were landing on an airstrip? Unless you are a professional pilot, you would probably be frightened out of your wits and would soil your underwear. Hold that thought as you read this essay because I will explain to you how market manipulation works. What the professionals and the securities regulators know and understand, which the rest of us do not, is this.
"RULE NUMBER ONE:
ALL SHARP PRICE MOVEMENTS -- WHETHER UP OR DOWN --ARE THE RESULT OF ONE OR MORE (USUALLY A GROUP OF) PROFESSIONALS MANIPULATING THE SHARE PRICE."
This should explain why a mining company finds something good and” nothing happens" or the stock goes down. At the same time, for NO apparent reason, a stock suddenly takes off for the sky! On little volume! Someone is manipulating that stock, often with an unfounded rumour. In order to make these market manipulations work, the professionals assume: (a) The Public is STUPID and (b) The Public will mainly buy at the HIGH and (c) The Public will sell at the LOW. Therefore, as long as the market manipulator can run crowd control, he can be successful. Let's face it: The reason you speculate in such markets is that you are greedy AND optimistic. You believe in a better tomorrow and NEED to make money quickly. It is this sentiment which is exploited by the market manipulator. He controls YOUR greed and fear about a particular stock. If he wants you to buy, the company's prospects look like the next Microsoft. If the manipulator wants you to desert the sinking ship, he suddenly becomes very guarded in his remarks about the company, isn't around to glowingly answer questions about the company and/or GETS issued very bad news about the company. Which brings us to the next important rule.
"RULE NUMBER TWO:
IF THE MARKET MANIPULATOR WANTS TO DISTRIBUTE (DUMP)HIS SHARES, HE WILL START A GOOD NEWS PROMOTIONAL CAMPAIGN."
Ever wonder why a particular company is made to look like the greatest thing since sliced bread? That sentiment is manufactured. Newsletter writers are hired -- either secretly or not -- to cheerlead a stock. PR firms are hired and let loose upon an unsuspecting public. Contracts to appear on radio talk shows are signed and implemented. Stockbrokers get "cheap" stock to recommend the company to their "book" (that means YOU, the client in his book). An advertising campaign is rolled out (television ads, newspaper ads, card deck mailings). The company signs up to exhibit at "investment conferences" and "gold shows" (mainly so they can get a little "podium time" to hype you on their stock and tell you how "their company is really different" and” not a stock promotion.") Funny little "hype" messages are posted on Internet newsgroups by the same cast of usual suspects. The more, the merrier. And a little "juice" can go a long way toward running up the stock price. The HYPE is on. The more clever a stock promoter, the better his knowledge of the advertising business. Little gimmicks like "positioning" are used. Example: Make a completely unknown company look warm and fuzzy and appealing to you by comparing it to a recent success story. The only reason you have been invited to this seemingly incredible banquet is that YOU are the main course. After the market manipulator has suckered you into "his investment," exchanging HIS paper for YOUR cash, the walls begin to close in on you. Why is that?
"RULE NUMBER THREE:
AS SOON AS THE MARKET MANIPULATOR HAS COMPLETED HIS DISTRIBUTION (DUMPING) OF SHARES, HE WILL START A BAD NEWS OR NO NEWS CAMPAIGN."
Your favourite home-run stock has just stalled or retreated a bit formats high. Suddenly, there is a news VACUUM. Either NO news or BAD rumours. I discovered this with quite a few stocks. I would get LOADS of information and "hot tips." All of a sudden, my pipeline was shut-off. Some companies would even issue a news release CONDEMNING me ("We don't need 'that kind of hype’ referring to me!). Cute, huh? When the company wanted fantastic hype circulated hither and yon, there would be someone there to spoon-feed me. The second the distribution phase was DONE....ooops! Sorry, no more news. Or, "I'm sorry. He's not in the office." Or, "He won't be back until Monday." The really slick market manipulators would even seed the Internet newsgroups or other journalists to plant negative stories about that company. Or start a propaganda campaign of negative rumours on all available communication vehicles. Even hiring a "contraire" or” special PR firm" to drive down the price. Even hiring someone to attack the guy who had earlier written low about the company. (This is not a game for the faint-hearted!) You'll also see the stock drifting endlessly. You may even experience a helpless feeling, as if you were floating in outer space without a lifeline. That is exactly HOW the market manipulator wants you to feel. See Rule Number Five below. He may also be doing this to avoid the severe disappointment of a "dry hole" or a "failed deal." You'll hear that oft-cried refrain, "Oh well, that's the junior minerals exploration business... very risky!" Or the oft-quoted statistic, "Nine out of 10 businesses fail each year and this IS a Venture Capital Start-up stock exchange." Don't think it wasn't contrived. If a geologist at a junior mining company wasn't optimistic and rosy in his promise of exploration success, he would be replaced by someone who was! Ditto for the high-tech deal, in a world awash with PhD's. So, how do you know when you are being taken? Look again at Rule #1.Inside that rule, a few other rules unfold which explain how a stock price is manipulated.
"RULE NUMBER FOUR:
ANY STOCK THAT TRADES HUGE VOLUME AT HIGHER PRICES SIGNALS THE DISTRIBUTION PHASE."
When there was less volume, the price was lower. Professionals were
accumulating. After the price runs, the volume increases. The professionals bought low and sold high. The amateurs bought high (and will soon enough sell low). In older books about market manipulation and stock promotion, which I've recently studied, the mark-up price referred to THREE times higher than the floor. The floor is the launch pad for the stock. For example, if one looks at the stock price and finds a steady flat line on the stock's chart of around 10p , then that range is the FLOOR. Basically, the mark-up phase can go as high as the market manipulator is capable of taking it. From my observations, a good mark-up should be able to run about five to ten times higher than the floor, with six to seven being common. The market manipulator will do everything in his power to keep you OUT OF THE STOCK until the share price has been marked up by at least two-three times, sometimes resorting to "shaking you out" until after he has accumulated enough shares. Once the mark-up has begun, the stock chart will show you one or more spikes in the volume -- all at much higher prices (marked up by the manipulator, of course).
"RULE NUMBER FIVE:
THE MARKET MANIPULATOR WILL ALWAYS TRY TO GET YOU TO BUY AT THE HIGHEST, AND SELL AT THE LOWEST PRICE POSSIBLE."
Just as the manipulator will use every available means to invite you to "the party," he will savagely and brutally drive you away from "his stock" when he has fleeced you. The first falsehood you assume is that the stock promoter WANTS you to make a bundle by investing in his company. So begins a string of lies that run for as long as your stomach can take it. You will get the first clue that "you have been had" when the stock stalls at the higher level. Somehow, it ran out of steam and you are not sure why. Well, it ran out of steam because the market manipulator stopped running it up. It's over inflated and he can't convince more people to buy. The volume dries up while the share price seems to stall. LOOK AT THE TRADING VOLUME, NOT THE SHARE PRICE! When earlier, there may have been X amounts of shares trading each day for eight out of 12 trading days (as in the case of CONROY), now the volume has slipped to X amount shares (or so) daily. There are some buyers there, enough for the manipulator to continue dumping his paper, but only so long as he can enlist one or more individuals/services to bang his drum. He may continue feeding the promo guys a string of "promises" and” good news down the road." (Believe me, this HAS happened to me!) But, when the news finally arrives, the stock price goes THUD! This is entirely orchestrated
"RULE NUMBER SIX:
IF THIS IS A REAL DEAL, THEN YOU ARE LIKELY TO BE THE LAST PERSON TO BE NOTIFIED OR WILL BE DRIVEN OUT AT THE LOWER PRICES."
Like Jesse Livermore wrote, "If there's some easy money lying around, no one is going to force it into your pocket." The same concept can be more clearly understood by watching the trades. When a market manipulator wants you into his stock, you will hear LOUD noises of stock promotion and hype. If you are "in the loop," you will be bombarded from many directions. Similarly, if he wants you out of the stock, then there will be orchestrated rumours being circulated, rapid-fired at you again from many directions. Just as good news may come to you in waves, so will bad news. You will see evidence of a VERY sharp drop in the share price with HUGE volume. That is you and your buddies running for the exits. If the deal is really for real, the market manipulator wants to get ALL OF YOUR SHARES or as many as he can... and at the lowest price he can. Where as before, he wanted you IN his market, so he could dump his shares to you at a higher price, NOW when he sees that this deal IS for real, he wants to pay as little as possible for those same shares... YOUR shares which he wants you to part with, as quickly as possible. The market manipulator will shake you out by DRIVING the price as lows he can. Just as in the "accumulation" stage, he wants to keep everything as quiet as possible so he can snap up as many of the shares for himself, he will NOW turn down, or even turn off, the volume so he can repeat the accumulation phase. The accumulation phase was TOP SECRET. The noise level was deadingly silent. As soon as the insiders accumulated all their shares, they let YOU in on the secret.
"RULE NUMBER SEVEN:
CONVERSELY, YOU WILL OFTEN BE THE LAST TO KNOWWHEN THIS DEAL SHOWS SIGNS OF FAILURE."
Twenty-twenty hindsight will often show you that there was a "little stumble" in the share price, just as the "assays were delayed" or the” deal didn't go through." Manipulators were peeling off their paper to START the downslide. And ACCELERATE it. The quick slide down makes it improbable for your getting out at more than what you originally paid for the stock... and gives you a better reason for holding onto it "a little longer" in case the price rebounds. Then, the drifting stage begins and fear takes over. And unless you have nerves of steel and can afford to wait out the manipulator, you will more than likely end up selling out at a cheap price. For the insider, market maker or underwriter is obliged to buy back all of your paper in order to keep his company alive and maintain control of it. The less he has to pay for your paper, the lower his cost will be to commence his stock promotion again... at some future date. Even if his company has no prospects AT ALL, his "shell" of a company has some value (only in that others might want to use that structure so they can run their own stock promotion). So, the manipulator WILL buy back his paper. He just wants to make sure that he pays as little for those shares as possible.
"RULE NUMBER EIGHT:
THE MARKET MANIPULATOR WILL COMPEL YOU INTO THESTOCK SO THAT YOU DRIVE UP ITS PRICE SHARES."
Placing a Market Order or Pre-Market Order is an amateur's mistake, A market manipulator (traders included here) can jack up the share price during your market order and bring you back a confirmation at some preposterous level. The Market Manipulator will use the "tape" against you. He will keep buying up his own paper to keep you reaching for a higher price. He will get in line ahead of you to buy all the shares at the current price and force you to pay MORE for those shares. He will tease you and MAKE you reach for the higher price so you "won't miss out." Miss out on what? Getting your head chopped off, that's what! One can avoid market manipulation by not buying during the huge price spikes and abnormal trading volumes, also known as chasing the stock to a higher price.
"RULE NUMBER NINE:
THE MARKET MANIPULATOR IS WELL AWARE OF THE MOTIONS YOU ARE EXPERIENCING DURING A RUN UP AND A COLLAPSE AND WILL PLAY YOUR EMOTIONS LIKE A PIANO."
During the run up, you WILL have a rush of greed which compels you to run into the stock. During the collapse, you WILL have a fear that you will lose everything... so you will rush to exit. See how simple it is and how clear a bell it strikes? Don't think this formula isn’t tattooed inside the mind of every manipulator. The market manipulator will play you on the way up and play you on the way down. If he does it very well, he will make it look like someone else's fault that you lost money! Promise to fill up your wallet? You'll rush into the stock. Scare you into losing every penny you have in that stock? You'll run away screaming with horror! And vow to NEVER, ever speculate in such stocks again. But many of you still do.... The manipulator even knows how to bring you back for yet another play. What actors! No wonder Vancouver is sometimes called "Hollywood North."
"FINAL RULE:
A NEW BATCH OF SUCKERS ARE BORN WITH EVERY NEW PLAY."
The Financial Markets are a Cruel, Unkind and Dangerous Playing Field, one place where the newest amateurs are generally fleeced the most brutally.... usually by those who KNOW the above rules. Just as I have a duty to ensure that each of you understand how this game is played, YOU now have that same duty to guarantee that your fellow speculator understands these rules. Just as I would be a criminal for not making this data known to you, YOU would be just as criminal to keep it a secret. There will always be an unsuspecting, trusting fool whom the rabid dogs will tear to shreds, but it does NOT have to be this way. IF every subscriber made this essay broadly known to his friends, acquaintances and family, and they passed it on to their friends, word of mouth could cause many of these market manipulators to pause. IF this effort were done strenuously by many, then perhaps the financial markets could weed out the crooked manipulators and the promoters could bring us more legitimate plays. The stock markets are a financing tool. The companies BORROW money from you, when you invest or speculate in their companies. They want their share price going higher so they can finance their deal with less dilution of their shares... if they are good guys. But, how would you feel about a friend or family member who kept borrowing money from you and never repaid it? That would be theft, plain and simple. So, a market manipulator is STEALING your money.
Regards
psps - 16 Oct'03 - 14:19 - 429 of 747
i NEVER said whose fault it is...............
i just said it for FUN....GET IT
VERY QUICK - 16 Oct'03 - 14:20 - 430 of 747
Just going to buy another 2 mill.
singinsmythe - 16 Oct'03 - 14:26 - 431 of 747
Did anyone get past rule 2 ? ph any theories on jfk or the moon landing.
jmillskeel - 16 Oct'03 - 14:27 - 432 of 747
have you bought vq??
Purplehelmut - 16 Oct'03 - 14:31 - 433 of 747
singinsmythe - yep a Cadillac landed on the moon and JFK drove it there....
I am not trying to deramp - Lord knows plenty have been hard-shafted on here and my sympathy is with them entirely.
I happened to read that article and it just reminded me strongly of RSV for some reason....fyi...dyor...imho...etc
psps - 16 Oct'03 - 14:33 - 434 of 747
the FIRST Rule in investing............DYOR
the SECOND Rule....BUY on romour
the LAST Rule......Sell on fact
singinsmythe - 16 Oct'03 - 14:35 - 435 of 747
lol don't worry m8 I'm not a holder, article just seemed a bit long-winded that was all, I will read it all later after I've sorted out this lorry load of paperclips....
psps - 16 Oct'03 - 14:37 - 436 of 747
oh yah another RULE in investing..............ONLY invest the money you can afford to loose
VERY QUICK - 16 Oct'03 - 14:37 - 437 of 747
Jmillskeel bought 2 mill more.
jmillskeel - 16 Oct'03 - 14:39 - 438 of 747
good, 8 mill now then..
cougar6 - 16 Oct'03 - 14:47 - 439 of 747
what is the nominal value of theses shares ?
rescuer - 16 Oct'03 - 14:56 - 440 of 747
so with another MM buy going thro at 2.5m surley they must now have a declarable interest LoL. 2.5m x 2 and 2m x 2 yesterday
rescuer - 16 Oct'03 - 14:57 - 441 of 747
so with another MM buy going thro at 2.5m surley they must now have a declarable interest LoL. 2.5m x 2 and 2m x 2 yesterday
jmillskeel - 16 Oct'03 - 14:58 - 442 of 747
Must be for very quicks trade ??
Where's the mm's buying from each other and where are the shares coming from ??
We shall all know soon.
londonmetro - 16 Oct'03 - 15:02 - 443 of 747
Just bought another 1.5 Million for the hell of it.
0.09p
psps - 16 Oct'03 - 15:14 - 444 of 747
comdirect does not allow more than 50,000 to BUY ???
i tried for 1 mlm to buy .....they say no chance.........only 50,000 is allowed at the moment
deb81e - 16 Oct'03 - 15:14 - 445 of 747
i'm in for other 1m
psps - 16 Oct'03 - 15:19 - 446 of 747
i want 1 MLN as well.....but comdirect cant get it for me.
safman - 16 Oct'03 - 15:21 - 447 of 747
there u have it..everyones a millionaire... but seriously.. not sure which way this is gonna go.. down at the mo? watching with interest..
cougar6 - 16 Oct'03 - 15:23 - 448 of 747
do we know what the capital reorganisation announced on sept is ?
VERY QUICK - 16 Oct'03 - 15:26 - 449 of 747
Been told somethings going on but have to wait and see so we are all in the same boat.
psps - 16 Oct'03 - 15:27 - 450 of 747
i want 1 MLN..........but cant get it.....................
Opthalmist - 16 Oct'03 - 15:28 - 451 of 747
IMIweb: says you can buy 50k / sell 250k, but won't give a price for ANY quantity on-line.
RBonnier - 16 Oct'03 - 15:29 - 452 of 747=
Dropped Again 0.06 waiting
psps - 16 Oct'03 - 15:29 - 453 of 747
Comdirect is the same.................LIMIT of 50,000 to BUY
RBonnier - 16 Oct'03 - 15:32 - 454 of 747
.o6 on the bid is this going to .02
psps - 16 Oct'03 - 15:34 - 455 of 747
the price is dropping yet you cant BUY more than 50,000
Skiboy10 - 16 Oct'03 - 15:34 - 456 of 747
Can buy 1mill on line with self trade no problem
(edit) correction can buy 2mill online.
dubois - 16 Oct'03 - 15:36 - 457 of 747
Cant get a purchase of any amount with Fastrade. Normally no problem
cougar6 - 16 Oct'03 - 15:37 - 458 of 747
capital reorganisation 120 mill shares down to 1.2mill at 1p chiddingford can convert there £100k to shares at 1p. is this deal approved by shareholders
Parishmod - 16 Oct'03 - 15:38 - 459 of 747
Why can't I buy? I want to own 1 million.
matto - 16 Oct'03 - 15:39 - 460 of 747
comdirect showing max online buy of 2 million at the moment.
psps - 16 Oct'03 - 15:39 - 461 of 747
MILLION
RBonnier - 16 Oct'03 - 15:40 - 462 of 747
You dont its sinking to zero incredible!
Ellemaitch - 16 Oct'03 - 15:42 - 463 of 747
tell u something , fortunate i have made absolute shedloads on DDD over the past few weeks enables me to actually look at the funny side of this ! i have , like most , have never seen anything like this ever ! EVO 0.01/0.06 ! how many shares can b floating around ? cos all i hear is buys ! wonder whether we will have games at 16:20pm
safman - 16 Oct'03 - 15:43 - 464 of 747
what is going on...?? never seen this before...
psps - 16 Oct'03 - 15:43 - 465 of 747
How many will i be able to buy at ZERO p
cougar6 - 16 Oct'03 - 15:44 - 466 of 747
lot of mm to mm
Opthalmist - 16 Oct'03 - 15:44 - 467 of 747
£0.0001 per share values the entire company at £12k!
psps - 16 Oct'03 - 15:45 - 468 of 747
i will buy it when its valued at £1.20 or even better at £0.12p
Opthalmist - 16 Oct'03 - 15:45 - 469 of 747
They are juggling with the very last 2.5million shares so we can't get our hands on them too!
JAN8MM - 16 Oct'03 - 15:45 - 470 of 747
BLOODEY HELL ... LOL.... SHOULD HAVE WAITED WITH MY PURCHASE... but then again what is the POINT we heading for 0... how can this be.... the more people buy the less it's worth, what THE HELL IS GOING ON... What are the MM's playing at??????
Opthalmist - 16 Oct'03 - 15:47 - 471 of 747
Another strange thing, market cap is increasing according to advfn figures, now £1.36million! LOL
Jeff_V - 16 Oct'03 - 15:48 - 472 of 747
I just paid .85 for a trade worth 300 quid!
jmillskeel - 16 Oct'03 - 15:48 - 473 of 747
i have never seen any thing like these before..
rescuer - 16 Oct'03 - 15:49 - 474 of 747
evo's have just gone MKT on the bid. what does that mean ??
pictureframe - 16 Oct'03 - 15:50 - 475 of 747
glug glug glug get ready for the RNS
Kael - 16 Oct'03 - 15:50 - 476 of 747
wtf...
cougar6 - 16 Oct'03 - 15:50 - 477 of 747
advfn cap detais on most companies seem bit out of date
Sojourno - 16 Oct'03 - 15:51 - 478 of 747
Market Maker buys, Rollovers.... massive drop on heavy buying apparently... this is weird... never seen it before, well except for yesterday!
£50,000 to sell the whole lot now!
The price is plummeting because the bill for all these RNS's can't be paid!!
... as I type price TICKING UP?
Justjus - 16 Oct'03 - 15:51 - 479 of 747
offer rising, trying to sucker you in again!
rescuer - 16 Oct'03 - 15:52 - 480 of 747
now evo's have just rejoined, what on earth is going on. I think you should all ask for your share certs, coz i think evo's have flucked up and continues to sell shares they dont have, the buying has continued and the MM's are stuffed.
What price for any trader to say they beat the market, well done guys, i think you may have just done it.
rescuer - 16 Oct'03 - 15:54 - 481 of 747
would love to think, that was the biggest tree shake ever and it didn;t work.
Come on RVS, up you go for the blokes with the big balls.
rescuer - 16 Oct'03 - 15:55 - 482 of 747
evos just gone MKT again on the bid, anybody tell me why or what ??
me me - 16 Oct'03 - 15:56 - 483 of 747
Just picked up 2.6 mill at 0.05 This is FUN
jmillskeel - 16 Oct'03 - 15:57 - 484 of 747
out of stock i think, wdik..
psps - 16 Oct'03 - 15:57 - 485 of 747
NEVER EVER in my life i have seen a share price behave like this.
COMDIRECT is only allowing a BUY upto 50,000
Kael - 16 Oct'03 - 15:57 - 486 of 747
This has got to be the most bizarre trading experience I've had.
Beastman - 16 Oct'03 - 15:58 - 487 of 747
Anyone got a phone number for RSV
Justjus - 16 Oct'03 - 15:58 - 488 of 747
they won't answer!
Beastman - 16 Oct'03 - 15:59 - 489 of 747
have you tried
FatherFrost - 16 Oct'03 - 16:00 - 490 of 747
Idealing offers .085 for 500'000 despite .05 on monitor here
psps - 16 Oct'03 - 16:00 - 491 of 747
BID now .4p and offer at .8p.........and i can buy upto 2mln with comdirect.
i wanted then at .5p not now
Justjus - 16 Oct'03 - 16:00 - 492 of 747
ages ago when they properly trading, don't expect one now!
rarther - 16 Oct'03 - 16:00 - 493 of 747
What does MKT mean??
Jeff_V - 16 Oct'03 - 16:00 - 494 of 747
Same here, can't get lower than 0.85. Me me telling porkies?
Kamlani - 16 Oct'03 - 16:01 - 495 of 747
i think there is going to be a take over bid drop the price and then buy at a "PREMIUM" even 0.001 is a premium to todays price
Justjus - 16 Oct'03 - 16:01 - 496 of 747
what twits have bought just 50k???
Sparky333 - 16 Oct'03 - 16:03 - 497 of 747
Playing with fire boys
swizz - 16 Oct'03 - 16:03 - 498 of 747
My understanding of the situation when a market maker goes MKT, they do not want the stock at any price, they have effectively ruled themselves out from bidding for the stock, anyone care to correct or add to that ?
Sojourno - 16 Oct'03 - 16:03 - 499 of 747
Beatsman...
RoomService Deliveries Ltd.
65 Maygrove Road
London. NW6 2EH
Tel: 0207 644 6666
Fax: 0207 644 6644
www.roomservice.co.uk
...go for it!
Kael - 16 Oct'03 - 16:04 - 500 of 747
LOL sounds about right
Justjus - 16 Oct'03 - 16:04 - 501 of 747
not part of Room Service Group!!!
rarther - 16 Oct'03 - 16:04 - 502 of 747
Roomservice deliveries Ltd is not roomservice PLC
Sojourno - 16 Oct'03 - 16:06 - 503 of 747
Who Cares!!
Beastman - 16 Oct'03 - 16:07 - 504 of 747
Thanks Sojourno,
Wrong company, phoned up and they said that I should be phoning for Room Service PLC NOT RoomService Deliveries Ltd. Lots of 666's in that tel no !
rarther - 16 Oct'03 - 16:07 - 505 of 747
edit
me me - 16 Oct'03 - 16:07 - 506 of 747
Added another 2.6 mill. Feeling abit mad today :))
Justjus - 16 Oct'03 - 16:07 - 507 of 747
psps - you suitably embarrassed by your thread title today?
Jeff_V - 16 Oct'03 - 16:08 - 508 of 747
me me - what price?
jmillskeel - 16 Oct'03 - 16:08 - 509 of 747
can buy @0.05 no probs tdw.
rescuer - 16 Oct'03 - 16:08 - 510 of 747
Room Service Group PLC
Contact Details
HEAD & REGISTERED OFFICE:
65 Maygrove Road
London
NW6 2EH
United Kingdom
Tel: (020) 7644 6666
Fax: (020) 7644 6644
email : roomservice@roomservice.co.uk
rarther - 16 Oct'03 - 16:08 - 511 of 747
how much are you holding meme?
me me - 16 Oct'03 - 16:08 - 512 of 747
Got 3 million for 0.048
safman - 16 Oct'03 - 16:08 - 513 of 747
lol!!
rarther - 16 Oct'03 - 16:09 - 514 of 747
did you limit at .048 or best?
Sojourno - 16 Oct'03 - 16:09 - 515 of 747
Beatsman...
OK, try these numbers then:-
http://213.38.100.13:50803/hs_templates/summary_main.php?epic=RSV .L
me me - 16 Oct'03 - 16:09 - 516 of 747
rarther
8 million 2.2 mill @ 0.1 2.6 mill 0.05 3 mill 0.048 All good fun
TCPIPMAN - 16 Oct'03 - 16:09 - 517 of 747
get your money out of this no hoper and into CEN. Durlacher giving it a 15p target on Monday.
Paul Miov - 16 Oct'03 - 16:09 - 518 of 747
I was quoted 0.09 for 1m, (did not buy them)
"me me" who are you buying through???
Cheers
Paul
jmillskeel - 16 Oct'03 - 16:12 - 519 of 747
anybody for a take over bid..
rescuer - 16 Oct'03 - 16:13 - 520 of 747
rang Room Service out of curiosity >> the reply, "room service group plc went in to liquidation in January, room service deliveries have nothing to do with them, we are owned by an icelandic guy"
where can i find RSV ?? reply " i dont know where they are"
Did they inform the stock market about not being here any more? repley " i dont know anything about that mate, ther's been someone on today about IMS" end of telephone conversation.
What IMS ??
Jeff_V - 16 Oct'03 - 16:13 - 521 of 747
If this is going down the bog why say the offer is .05 if you won't sell for much less than 0.085 or 0.09? Weird.
jmillskeel - 16 Oct'03 - 16:14 - 522 of 747
reckon the dir have sold out and we have bought a company..
Kael - 16 Oct'03 - 16:15 - 523 of 747
LOL I think you may be right!
matto - 16 Oct'03 - 16:16 - 524 of 747
Does anyone know when/where the AGM/EGM is?
jmillskeel - 16 Oct'03 - 16:16 - 525 of 747
ME ME thought you were going on holiday lol..
rarther - 16 Oct'03 - 16:16 - 526 of 747
eeeeeek going for .06 now its going back
Paul Miov - 16 Oct'03 - 16:17 - 527 of 747
jmill,
LOL !
ps can buy 1m at 0.05 now but thinking it would be more rational to burn the money in the garden while howling like a fox
deb81e - 16 Oct'03 - 16:18 - 528 of 747
got other 2m @ .48 TDW
rarther - 16 Oct'03 - 16:18 - 529 of 747
25 million.... whaaaaaat
Kael - 16 Oct'03 - 16:18 - 530 of 747
well whoever has the largest holding here can decide where the AGM/EGM meeting is :O
prolly the local greasy cafe.
Justjus - 16 Oct'03 - 16:19 - 531 of 747
saves on stamp duty and commission!
CURRYPASTY - 16 Oct'03 - 16:19 - 532 of 747
dont supose anyone thinks they are about to go bust ?
jmillskeel - 16 Oct'03 - 16:19 - 533 of 747
25 million god whats that
mattheworchard - 16 Oct'03 - 16:19 - 534 of 747
25m, what the heck!
Sojourno - 16 Oct'03 - 16:19 - 535 of 747
Matto... When would you like the AGM / EGM to be? LOL!!
... try phoning their Solicitors or Auditors in the link I gave above.
Kamlani - 16 Oct'03 - 16:19 - 536 of 747
i didnt know the MM would have to buy shares to fill my order oh well sorry MM's
deb81e - 16 Oct'03 - 16:20 - 537 of 747
now holding 7m
me me - 16 Oct'03 - 16:20 - 538 of 747
Paul
Share people got 3,056,286 mill @0.048 no problem
Opthalmist - 16 Oct'03 - 16:20 - 539 of 747
25m MM trade deleted
londonmetro - 16 Oct'03 - 16:21 - 540 of 747
how many rns,s are we going to get over the next 5 days i think 7
Sojourno - 16 Oct'03 - 16:22 - 541 of 747
25M.... that's an MM buying 20% of the company.
Has it hit the bottom? Time to buy?
(edit) yeah, deleted... Time to Sell, or was it a Rollover!!!!
fatmattress - 16 Oct'03 - 16:22 - 542 of 747
Jmillskeel - 16 Oct'03 - 16:14 - 522 of 527
reckon the dir have sold out and we have bought a company..
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LOL! classic stuff...
jmillskeel - 16 Oct'03 - 16:23 - 543 of 747
at least reckon we must own 40%+ between us
swizz - 16 Oct'03 - 16:24 - 544 of 747
reckon the posters on this board now on the company so Have the AGM online, just create a RSV AGM thread and all log onto it, good luck :o)
Beastman - 16 Oct'03 - 16:24 - 545 of 747
Okay just got off the phone to the company's Brokers : John East & Partners, Tel: (020) 7628 2200. Told me there is a AGM on Monday, 2 new directors will be appointed and the company name is going to change.
Apparantly the broker and the stock market are investigating the share price movement.
rarther - 16 Oct'03 - 16:24 - 546 of 747
Anyone care to guess how many shares (which don't exist yet) have been sold lately? 150mil?
fatmattress - 16 Oct'03 - 16:25 - 547 of 747
be carefull - if you now own the company - any black holes in accounts and you may become liable!
rarther - 16 Oct'03 - 16:25 - 548 of 747
Good stuff Beastman, thanks.
Jeff_V - 16 Oct'03 - 16:27 - 549 of 747
What was will I/Won't I sell 25M all about? Would be enough to cause today's crash.
Justjus - 16 Oct'03 - 16:27 - 550 of 747
good sucker tactics, report 25m MM buy and then delete it! LOL!!!
jmillskeel - 16 Oct'03 - 16:27 - 551 of 747
3000000 @0.48p
Paul Miov - 16 Oct'03 - 16:28 - 552 of 747
fatmattress, LOL !
Kael - 16 Oct'03 - 16:29 - 553 of 747
liable for debt my ar*e,
jmillskeel - 16 Oct'03 - 16:29 - 554 of 747
shall we start a new thread, shit or bust ?
Kael - 16 Oct'03 - 16:29 - 555 of 747
LOL
CURRYPASTY - 16 Oct'03 - 16:30 - 556 of 747
with the spread on each MM being 0.05, if they drop the ASK to 0.04, does that mean the BID is -0.01, ie you have to pay to sell your shares ?
psps - 16 Oct'03 - 16:31 - 557 of 747
new thread .....nah not yet.
this one is more fun
Paul Miov - 16 Oct'03 - 16:31 - 558 of 747
where are they holding the AGM, I reckon they ought to consult the major shareholders before appointing new directors. Mabey you chaps should go down there and fire these new directors. Ps what are they going to pay them in anyway?
cougar6 - 16 Oct'03 - 16:32 - 559 of 747
beastman did you get there names ?
safman - 16 Oct'03 - 16:32 - 560 of 747
what u mean pay so taht you don't have to inherit any liabilities...??
LOL!..
hopes this works out for u guys .. if it does well.. if not well..
Justjus - 16 Oct'03 - 16:33 - 561 of 747
Paul - I think the dirs have already left the building...
Paul Miov - 16 Oct'03 - 16:34 - 562 of 747
I sell burning torches and rope good for a hangin if anyone is interested,
Ps I do not accept shares in RSV or IOUs as paymnet
davidcod - 16 Oct'03 - 16:34 - 563 of 747
ever heard of the saying... "never chase a share..." ??
you are all doing just that..
i'm sitting sit and holding the crap I already own..
"only play with money you can afford to lose.." - i'm expecting to lose the lot after today..!!
safman - 16 Oct'03 - 16:34 - 564 of 747=
left the building..don't u mean left the country!
psps - 16 Oct'03 - 16:35 - 565 of 747
another interesting day comes to an END
gosh never have i seen shares move like RSV
VERY QUICK - 16 Oct'03 - 16:35 - 566 of 747
Got my 2 mill at 0.090 that makes 8 mill. looks like i may buy 2 mill more at 0.06 tomoro and make it 10 mill
cougar6 - 16 Oct'03 - 16:35 - 567 of 747
think the same guys are behind und , ppb
jmillskeel - 16 Oct'03 - 16:36 - 568 of 747
started a new thread guys, check it out we should get a laugh anyway..
londonmetro - 16 Oct'03 - 16:37 - 569 of 747
The question still is that there are currently not enough shares to go around judging by all the buys.
All we can do is wait - could someone create a list of shareholders from this BB.
That will give us an ideas of holdings plus we can add in Margaret and the photo director.
Jeff_V - 16 Oct'03 - 16:37 - 570 of 747
Then again there's a chance that no one knows anything and the MMs ran away from some big sell orders.
Ellemaitch - 16 Oct'03 - 16:37 - 571 of 747
heh , meme ! if all we got is cash (be it say , optimistically, £35 ?) in the bank at RSV and waiting for a takeover target ,sod that ! buy some DDD ,YOO and CDG and these shares will be a quid in no time !! (just think of the CGT tax though!) ;-)
Justjus - 16 Oct'03 - 16:37 - 572 of 747
Don't know why I'm having so much fun watching this, I've gone from holding 650k of CUB shares at 0.4p (was 33% up before suspension) to 65k RSV at 0.05p, £20 after commission! LOL!!!
Sojourno - 16 Oct'03 - 16:37 - 573 of 747
I've got an old council flat for sale if anyone's interested, worth about the same as RSV but returns about £350pcm.
If I apply for AIM listing how many of you are up for it?
VERY QUICK - 16 Oct'03 - 16:38 - 574 of 747
Infact i may buy another 20 mill 2moro. watch this space guys???
Justjus - 16 Oct'03 - 16:39 - 575 of 747
Soj - why apply for AIM listing? Reverse into RSV!
Sojourno - 16 Oct'03 - 16:39 - 576 of 747
...it's got a garden!!
fatmattress - 16 Oct'03 - 16:39 - 577 of 747
why dont you just go down to the casino instead?
at least you get some free sandwiches for your money
matto - 16 Oct'03 - 16:40 - 578 of 747
I bet what's also going on at the AGM is the vote about conversion of debt to equity. You larger shareholders ought to get yourselves sorted to vote against it I reckon, as well as dealing with who'll be directors.
Kael - 16 Oct'03 - 16:41 - 579 of 747
unfortunqately we all hold in nominees - can we vote?
Skiboy10 - 16 Oct'03 - 16:43 - 580 of 747
RNS Number:0036R
Room Service Group PLC
16 October 2003
For immediate release
16th October, 2003
Room Service Group Plc
("Room Service" or "the Company")
The directors of Room Service have noted the sharp movement in the Company's
share price and the directors are not aware of any reason for this movement.
This information is provided by RNS
The company news service from the London Stock Exchange
END
SPMGUGUCUUPWGQQ
VERY QUICK - 16 Oct'03 - 16:43 - 581 of 747
20 mill more for me tomoro that will f**k up the MM's for good
BestBuddy - 16 Oct'03 - 16:43 - 582 of 747
like i said!
cougar6 - 16 Oct'03 - 16:43 - 583 of 747
we should nominate a rep for the agm
Jeff_V - 16 Oct'03 - 16:44 - 584 of 747
If they had put that out before the close we could have all made a bit of a packet. Ah well, onwards and upwards tomorrow.
Paul Miov - 16 Oct'03 - 16:44 - 585 of 747
Sod voting, just show them how much stock you own and they'll have to listen
VBR
JR Ewing
Justjus - 16 Oct'03 - 16:44 - 586 of 747
we still have directors????
safman - 16 Oct'03 - 16:46 - 587 of 747
enjoying the show.. any ideas tomorrow... will wait and watch...
cougar6 - 16 Oct'03 - 16:47 - 588 of 747
directors made statement they do not no any reason for share movement
Kael - 16 Oct'03 - 16:47 - 589 of 747
The directors have no idea about the price movement my ar*e!
SILIO - 16 Oct'03 - 16:47 - 590 of 747
room service has gone bust,the mm know but the sad fact is you don't. whoops!
VERY QUICK - 16 Oct'03 - 16:47 - 591 of 747
Looks like 8 mill for me is not enough yet.
Sojourno - 16 Oct'03 - 16:47 - 592 of 747
"MOVEMENT"! Sounds like abit intestinal!
psps - 16 Oct'03 - 16:47 - 593 of 747
whats the point of given the news at 4.42pm........
londonmetro - 16 Oct'03 - 16:48 - 594 of 747
rns seems to imply that directors have not sold????????????????? if you by 20 mill vq you will be largest shareholder ...
Kael - 16 Oct'03 - 16:48 - 595 of 747
I think we do know the company has gone bust... but we dont care LOL
Jeff_V - 16 Oct'03 - 16:48 - 596 of 747
Might make it more attractive to buyers. Doesn't hurt future prospects for it be even cheaper to buy
cougar6 - 16 Oct'03 - 16:49 - 597 of 747
does anyone have the agenda for agm
psps - 16 Oct'03 - 16:50 - 598 of 747
start time 9 am
finish time 9.01am
doors closed
fatmattress - 16 Oct'03 - 16:50 - 599 of 747
now everything will be getting thrown in the suitcases........
matto - 16 Oct'03 - 16:50 - 600 of 747
Nominee account voting varies depending on paticular nominee.
karlmarsh - 16 Oct'03 - 16:51 - 601 of 747
lol @ psps
VERY QUICK - 16 Oct'03 - 16:52 - 602 of 747
Directors have not sold why should they they have a company to run. they are pissed off to see there value in there holding reduced. MM's are wankers.
Jeff_V - 16 Oct'03 - 16:52 - 603 of 747=
Think the MMs might be a bit fu*ked if RSV manage to wriggle out of this in a way that doesn't force its last remaining shareholders to bail out...
safman - 16 Oct'03 - 16:54 - 604 of 747
could be the case of the directors legging it off to a different country and leaving majority shareholder i.e. advfn users with liabilities...
negative equity...
lol!
only jokin...
karlmarsh - 16 Oct'03 - 16:54 - 605 of 747
Poor old Margaret eh?
Justjus - 16 Oct'03 - 16:55 - 606 of 747
only directors have liabilities, not shareholders!
Jeff_V - 16 Oct'03 - 16:55 - 607 of 747
Have to wait and see all the trades but I think the MMs are a little short to say the least. MKT indeed.
VERY QUICK - 16 Oct'03 - 16:57 - 608 of 747
Wot the f*ck is going on with this share have been doing this for a while now and NEVER NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE THIS BEFORE.
safman - 16 Oct'03 - 16:57 - 609 of 747
if they pull it off ... we could see some VERY happy holders here.. not sure i see that but it is possible...
VERY QUICK - 16 Oct'03 - 16:58 - 610 of 747
It is now 16:57 and buys and sell are still going thru the System
Justjus - 16 Oct'03 - 16:58 - 611 of 747
do RSV group own any of their property?
Paul Miov - 16 Oct'03 - 16:59 - 612 of 747
RNS Number:0036R
Room Service Group PLC
16 October 2003
For immediate release
16th October, 2003
Room Service Group Plc
("Room Service" or "the Company")
The directors of Room Service have noted the sharp movement in the Company's
share price and the directors are not aware of any reason for this movement nor are they in a taxi to the airport with the contents of the safe stuffed into a suicase.
This information is provided by RNS
The company news service from the London Stock Exchange
END
ROFLMAO00232234
cougar6 - 16 Oct'03 - 17:00 - 613 of 747
there pens sorry mean pen
psps - 16 Oct'03 - 17:00 - 614 of 747
the trades will be reported till the last deal is entered on the system
may be by 5.30pm it should be complete
safman - 16 Oct'03 - 17:02 - 615 of 747
lol!..
however if tehy do it.. there will be a lot of wealthy ppl here.. may take a good few yrs...
Justjus - 16 Oct'03 - 17:02 - 616 of 747
no mention of any progress in finding a reverse takeover candidate!
Jeff_V - 16 Oct'03 - 17:02 - 617 of 747
Not that they have had anything to do with it, but the directors should be happy with the new low price. Makes a reverse a real bargain if someone snags it quick enough.
matto - 16 Oct'03 - 17:03 - 618 of 747
If there is manipulation, maybe its on the part of Chiddingfold to reduce the price so that they end up with more shares and a bigger stake.
VERY QUICK - 16 Oct'03 - 17:03 - 619 of 747
Yes PSPS. I have not seen share buying and selling in a small company like this. Lloyd/TSB or BT on a good day are no match.
Paul Miov - 16 Oct'03 - 17:07 - 620 of 747
joking aside, good luck for tomorrow chaps, it should be another interesting day.
safman - 16 Oct'03 - 17:08 - 621 of 747
i can't remember a bullitin board being this busy.. as soon as you've typed and clicked on "post reply".. within that time there have been 4-5 new messages.. 1-2 consistantly... must be a record..
rescuer - 16 Oct'03 - 17:16 - 622 of 747
if someone had a hour or 2, (i would but got to cook the kids dinner) to look back thro all the trades yesterday and today (it'll be a bit tricky as all or most of the trades have bben delayed) you should get a rough idea of whats buys and sells. At a guess i would say that alomost the whole company has been purchased by you guys in the last 48 hours. Whilst there may have been alot fun watching you guys, you realy ought to considering your positions.
I dont know if any of you know each other or have had contact before, but i suggest you do it as soon as, maybe thro a separate thread, where ohter posters like me can give you a piece of privercy.
But the implication of you guys "owning" the company can very very exciting. As major shareholders you will have the right to decide the future direction of your company, including hiring and firing. A vot of NC in the current directorsship being one. Dont get sucked into being more than a shareholder tho as you will be liable for losses (as a company director i speak from experience). But you may have just bought into a very interesting cash shell, that can be driven forward. And whats more, at the very least, you have a listed company ready to trade, approx costson getting a listing are about £250k - £300k, plus legal and most importantly the time scale.
You guys have an "off the shelf" listed company thats worth about 0.3p per share for listing alone and thats bargain basement figures.
Hang in their, but most IMPORTANTLY U GUYS NEED TO GET TOGETHER and FAST.
Well done once again and best of luck for tomorrow. PS and a big thanks i didn't get my VAT returns done today, watching this thread
smraynot - 16 Oct'03 - 17:17 - 623 of 747
0.02-0.04 opening bid tomorrow.Sink or swim that is the gamble!!!
Jeff_V - 16 Oct'03 - 17:20 - 624 of 747
Of course what this thread will get now is loads and loads of derampers...why could that possibly be?
smraynot - 16 Oct'03 - 17:21 - 625 of 747
Maybe some of you are sweating, thats the name of the game.
Jeff_V - 16 Oct'03 - 17:26 - 626 of 747
MMs could take it lower and go even shorter I suppose, but it is a very dangerous game...will be accompanied by every MMs mate hitting the bulletin boards to call the company dead. As has already been said you can't pick up a listed company much cheaper.
Sojourno - 16 Oct'03 - 17:28 - 627 of 747
rescuer... Yours is good thoughtfull advice, I hope they take it. Do the right thing and they'll be minted.
Is this situation a first?
londonmetro - 16 Oct'03 - 17:28 - 628 of 747
making a list of shareholders on other thread can deb81e and psps or any other large share holder post amount thanks to all who have already supplied info see post no 2 under new thread for info will try to keep it up to date more buying tomorrow !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
mattheworchard - 16 Oct'03 - 17:35 - 629 of 747
Reminder:
Tax losses of 3p per share and AIM listed company is worth approx 0.30p per share.
THis is worth 1 - 3p at the minimum, to a company which can use the tax losses.
The shares are worth a minimum of 0.3p, even if diluted, say 0.2p.
HOLD ON AND DO NOT PANIC SELL, most of these derampers are probably MMs.
Jeff_V - 16 Oct'03 - 17:40 - 630 of 747
I wonder if marg or Photo Distribution bottled it today?
easymoney03 - 16 Oct'03 - 17:41 - 631 of 747
well im in for 5 million shares and have a buy order in for 25 million shares hopefully it will fall another 50-60% and it will be filled, the mm want this stock and today was a trap all i can say is buy buy buy good luck.........its a gamble
Jeff_V - 16 Oct'03 - 17:43 - 632 of 747
Easy easy - I think EVO genuinely thought armegeddon was on the way. They have no excuses tomorrow though.
psps - 16 Oct'03 - 17:55 - 633 of 747
i boght at 4.15pm and trade shows time of dealing as 15.28:40
i could only get another 333,333
Jeff_V - 16 Oct'03 - 17:57 - 634 of 747
The lowest I could get was 0.068 and that was for just less than 250k. I'm impressed that a few could get them at 0.06, never mind 0.05!
psps - 16 Oct'03 - 20:25 - 635 of 747
LATEST holding from advfn BB
jmillskeel -------- 15 Mln = 12.3%
photo director --- 10 Mln = 8.0%
very quick---------- 8 Mln = 6.4%
me me --- 7.8 Mln = 6.3%
deb --- 7 Mln = 5.6%
m.samea --- 6.6 Mln = 5.3%
easymoney -- 5 Mln = 4.0%
London metro ----- 4.5 Mln = 3.6%
gabtenbrink ----- 3.75 Mln = 3.0%
ellenaitch ---- 3 Mln = 2.4%
Crimestopper---- 3Mln = 2.4%
jeff-v--- 2.6 Mln = 2.1%
rarther------- 1Mn (updated at 9.50pm)
SMALL HOLDERS CLUB
psps---- 891K
skiboy10---500K
suahb-----500K
daza70----400K
sili10----150K
TOTAL AROUND 63.7 % holding
somehow the sums dont add up.
IF bb have around 78 mln shares out of a total holding of 124mln and surl;ey directors must hold the rest................
so where have the MM got the shares to sell (IF NO ONE HAS SOLD)???????????
hans solo - 16 Oct'03 - 20:52 - 636 of 747
good chance to stuff them good and proper,im in tomorrow am for a few,just for the gamble,might loose the lot but i dont think so!
psps - 16 Oct'03 - 21:35 - 637 of 747
yah what the HELL
hope you can get your 1 MLN
Kael - 16 Oct'03 - 23:45 - 638 of 747
add another 500K to that small holding list.
shares20032002 - 16 Oct'03 - 23:59 - 639 of 747
add my 1m as well please!!!!
shares20032002 - 17 Oct'03 - 00:00 - 640 of 747
and whatever i can get my hands on tomorrow!!! good luck all. regards shares
Slleinad - 17 Oct'03 - 00:18 - 641 of 747
I've got a grand Im prepared to gamble. What is a good price to get in tomorrow am?
psps - 17 Oct'03 - 04:41 - 642 of 747
IF you intend top take a gamble get in fast
jmillskeel - 17 Oct'03 - 06:40 - 643 of 747
post the updated list and ill add to it psps..
psps - 17 Oct'03 - 08:03 - 644 of 747
jmillskeel,
will do later as i am a wee bit busy at work.
shrares up 60% at start
rarther - 17 Oct'03 - 08:06 - 645 of 747
+70% already lol, half of us in profit... will there be lots of sells or will the rise attract more interest?
psps - 17 Oct'03 - 08:09 - 646 of 747
UP 80% .............
that will teach the MM to lower price.
WE ARE ALL HOLDING THIS COMPANY
psps - 17 Oct'03 - 08:16 - 647 of 747
comdirect will only allow a buy upto 10,000....................
VERY QUICK - 17 Oct'03 - 08:23 - 648 of 747
Morning all.PSPS. Looking good for today. Wanted to buy 2 mill more but could not get them yesterday late afternoon. Wish i could have got some more at 0.060p
nevermind my holding will do for now.
psps - 17 Oct'03 - 08:29 - 649 of 747
very quick
a very good morning to you and all on this bb
comdirect now allowing to buy 1 mln at .1p but i said no thanks
rarther - 17 Oct'03 - 08:31 - 650 of 747
They are taking sells inside the spread at 0.08 (sorry, bought at .05 and thought evo will pull back later so tried my luck), which bodes well for holders (it isn't a fake rise just to sell higher). Still holding some.
maxmillion - 17 Oct'03 - 08:32 - 651 of 747
Jmillskeel :
Go on then, never seen anything like this so put me down as a 2.4 % only. Isn`t hindsight a wonderful thing though ? All I can say is HOLD FAST.
Max
VERY QUICK - 17 Oct'03 - 08:41 - 652 of 747
I'm out with my girlfriend today so no more buying from me today but good luck to the dirty dozen. lets hope the rise is upwards and onwards. May check in later in the day to see how things are going. KEEP BUYING GUYS AND GIRLS.
VERY QUICK - 17 Oct'03 - 08:45 - 653 of 747
Looks like its no longer the dirty dozen, seems we have more stockholders now with a larger holding. Very good keep it up.
Jeff_V - 17 Oct'03 - 08:48 - 654 of 747
How high today, what do people think?
mattheworchard - 17 Oct'03 - 08:49 - 655 of 747
0.2p close
TCPIPMAN - 17 Oct'03 - 08:52 - 656 of 747
Most bought at 0.09 yesterday, you can only sell at 0.08 today so far. Me thinks the MM's are taking the piss out of you, they are trying to offload all thier sh*t. Who will be left holding the baby?
Beastman - 17 Oct'03 - 08:58 - 657 of 747
Okay heres the news for the AGM on Monday, 20th October 2003.
AGM held at RSV Brokers office at 11:00AM
Address
JOHN EAST & PARTNERS LTD
28-30 WORSHIP STREET
LONDON
EC2A 2AH
Tel No.
020 7628 2200
Two new directors are being appointed.
Director 1, Nicholas Greestone
Director 2, Ray Harris
The new proposed company name is going to be Azure Holdings PLC
psps - 17 Oct'03 - 08:58 - 658 of 747
now guys................in the real world we should have had RNS about massive stakes as clained by bb posters.
come on lets have the TRUTH are your buys real ?????????
i do hope its true though
Opthalmist - 17 Oct'03 - 08:59 - 659 of 747
advfn altered the market cap at last. Now reads £0.11m
londonmetro - 17 Oct'03 - 09:36 - 660 of 747
Ours if a definite holding
psps - 17 Oct'03 - 09:38 - 661 of 747
I all the buys are for REAL then why no RNS .............I ASK.
something is wrong somewhere
londonmetro - 17 Oct'03 - 09:39 - 662 of 747
The brokers should inform the LSE and can take a few days I believe.
We'll call them now and report back.
PaulKent - 17 Oct'03 - 09:44 - 663 of 747
will try this thread as got no answer on the other one!...
looks like great fun, but be4 piling in, could someon explain to me the detail of the capital reorganisation...coz i thought i read somewhere that it would mean that Chiddingfold, after converting their £100k loan into 10million shares, would own around 90% of the company...so will the current 124 million shares be turned into 1.24 million shares, ie one share per 100 held?...and if so, why is it then a good investment, or is this why you ahve all been buying so you can stop this happening?...but then if you stop it happening what will happen coz i presume Chiddingfold will jsut demand repayment and it will go bust as it gave all other investments away to Coran?...i think...
jsut asking for info be4 joining in, if i decide to!...ta
Optimist23 - 17 Oct'03 - 09:45 - 664 of 747
Check out PMD, breakout, good update expected on the 6th of November
Kamlani - 17 Oct'03 - 09:45 - 665 of 747
About all this RNS stuff well i was just thinking if it is in a nominee account then maybe there is no need as a broker can hold many shares for its clients that could easily add up to a large number/percentage of shares and therefore reporting all stakes would not viable would it this is just a thought ofcourse.
psps - 17 Oct'03 - 09:47 - 666 of 747
Paul,
aint got a clue.
i piled in for fun and took a gamble with a holding of 891,110 shares
PaulKent - 17 Oct'03 - 09:49 - 667 of 747
ha, ok psps..fair enough mate, and very honest!!!..refreshing!!!!...good on ya!...hope it works out and u manage to stuff the mms a bit!!!..
TCPIPMAN - 17 Oct'03 - 09:56 - 668 of 747
The MM's have a load of these and they dont want to get stuck with them so they are giving false buy signals so that suckers take them off their hands.
The oposite is happening at CEN, they dont have enough so the price is being held down while they collect a few.
mattheworchard - 17 Oct'03 - 11:11 - 669 of 747
Tax losses of 3p per share, and AIM company worth 0.2p per share.
The facts speak for themselves, This company is trading at a bargain basement price, and I imagine will be used for a reverse takeover shortly.
IMHO
alia - 17 Oct'03 - 11:13 - 670 of 747
1.4m only a small holder @.09 lol
psps - 17 Oct'03 - 11:31 - 671 of 747
50% chance down to .02p
50% chance up to .1p
mattheworchard - 17 Oct'03 - 11:32 - 672 of 747
psps, directors stated they are not aware of any reason for the fall.
Must mean 100% chance up to 0.2p
psps - 17 Oct'03 - 11:39 - 673 of 747
rise now only 30%
RBonnier - 17 Oct'03 - 11:41 - 674 of 747
Bid back to 0.04p might be able to buy at 0.03p after all!
PaulKent - 17 Oct'03 - 11:43 - 675 of 747
blimey..there were some very brave buys spending around £5000 earlier!...
brugha - 17 Oct'03 - 11:43 - 676 of 747
o.k hands up whose buying the 5 millions.
This is getting silly
psps - 17 Oct'03 - 11:44 - 677 of 747
yap
smraynot - 17 Oct'03 - 11:56 - 678 of 747
You mean 0.02p close.
brugha - 17 Oct'03 - 11:58 - 679 of 747
40 million shares
Almost all buys
one third of company
FSA should suspend this madness
As a shareholder I going to ask them.
Justjus - 17 Oct'03 - 12:00 - 680 of 747
if the directors know of no reason, then does that mean we haven't had the equity for debt swap? If so, where have all the shares come from, can't be the directors!
matto - 17 Oct'03 - 12:05 - 681 of 747
I presume we'd have been notified if the D4E had gone ahead. However, if it was to go ahead on Monday - and it was very dilutive - wouldn't that be a good reason for the drop! (and presumably the directors either know that this is or isn't going to happen).
Justjus - 17 Oct'03 - 12:11 - 682 of 747
matto - so you think the MMs are selling stock they don't have at the moment, but know of something happening on Monday (perhaps at the AGM) that would give them this stock?
matto - 17 Oct'03 - 12:18 - 683 of 747
It is conceivable that MMs are selling stock that they don't have.
I don't know anything but the final results refer to a capital reorganisation and the issue of equity to Chiddingfold in return for a loan made to the co. Presumably this will take place at the AGM on Monday.
cougar6 - 17 Oct'03 - 12:19 - 684 of 747
the issued share cap of £1,242,250,70 presently divided into ord shares £0.o1 to be reconstruucted as follows:- 124,225,070 ord into 1,242,250 ord shares of £1. the new £1 shares to be subdivided into £0.01 shares
matto - 17 Oct'03 - 12:28 - 685 of 747
Presumably the 1,242,250 ords will be converted into 99 deferred shares and 1 new ordinary share at 1p (subject to shareholder approval, and the deferred shares will in due course be cancelled). I think that's how these things work.
I imagine Chiddingfold will then receive 10,000,000 new ordinary shares at 1p for their £100,000 loan -> 90% of the co. (subject to shareholder approval).
rescuer - 17 Oct'03 - 12:49 - 686 of 747
Matto >> i came up with similar maths earlier, it would be better if the "new" major shareholders, offered Chiddingford, there loan payment direct, £100k by 12 holders is £8300 each, if they hold £10k's worth or 10m shares, they will be down by £18,300, but with Net Cash Per Share at 0.6p it would return them £60k minus £18,300 = £41,700 profit. (on paper) The success for the dirty dozen lies in them stopping the dilution. Stopping the diution will also rip the arse out of Evo's manipulation of this stock and no doubt they would have to pay a premium rate to balance their books.
The major problem the new major shareholders have, is they have to get together to sort out a stratergy before Mon.
alia - 17 Oct'03 - 12:56 - 687 of 747
any 1 phoned the company to ask if there is going to be anything about the dilution on monday
Rayzalaff - 17 Oct'03 - 12:57 - 688 of 747
Am I being naiive or something?
Just checked the price at 12:55 17/10/03 and it is 4p bid 9p offer. As far as I see it the only people making money out of this share are the market makers. I think this amounts to daylight robbery and its about time they were regulated better to stop this kind of abuse of their powers. What do you think fellow small invertors?
matto - 17 Oct'03 - 13:00 - 689 of 747
I agree rescuer, though, as has been pointed out on the other thread, the problems may lie in whether they can exercise their vote at all, but they nevertheless need to get together to try and sort something out.
cougar6 - 17 Oct'03 - 13:04 - 690 of 747
I will be going to the agm any others
mattheworchard - 17 Oct'03 - 13:50 - 691 of 747
stake building continues
pictureframe - 17 Oct'03 - 13:56 - 692 of 747=
why buy with such a terrible spread it has to double just to break even !!!
psps - 17 Oct'03 - 13:59 - 693 of 747
so of all the bb posters who (CLAIM that they bought MILLIONS) its only MAGGIE who has bought another 1.2 MLN as she now has 7.8 mln
so which one is MAGGIE ...all others posters have not bought 3% or more(IMHO)
londonmetro - 17 Oct'03 - 14:03 - 694 of 747
me me are you m.samea holding is same???????????????????
PaulKent - 17 Oct'03 - 14:03 - 695 of 747
psps
as i put on the other thread, how can they have isued cert to MAggie so quickly, and if they havnet how come they accept that SHE owns shares that she downt have cert for??...same should apply to all surely?
cougar6 - 17 Oct'03 - 14:05 - 696 of 747
I have more than maggie
dell314 - 17 Oct'03 - 14:05 - 697 of 747
me me has the correct number of 7.8mln?
Maggie Maggie
tonyx - 17 Oct'03 - 14:07 - 698 of 747
Cougar-you have 10m?
londonmetro - 17 Oct'03 - 14:13 - 699 of 747
Cougar6 - where are you on our list then?
Are you the photo man?
londonmetro - 17 Oct'03 - 14:45 - 700 of 747
jmillskeel please ring us have info....
psps - 17 Oct'03 - 14:52 - 701 of 747
i am now sure that most on this BB were telling PORKIES about the MILLOIONS they bought
mattheworchard - 17 Oct'03 - 15:02 - 702 of 747
All telling porkies,, I should have guessed!
That means more shares for the takeover company,,,
AND WE ARE UP...UP...UP
Good news on monday and these will return to 0.2p
nick26 - 17 Oct'03 - 15:03 - 703 of 747
psps - maybe maybe not - the fact is 140 odd million were traded yesterday and over 50 million today mostly buys! i bought just over 1.5 million this am and i have just seen a 6.5 million buy go through so someone is buying!
mattheworchard - 17 Oct'03 - 15:09 - 704 of 747
Let me remind you:
RSV Plc, 3p per share tax losses and AIM company worth 0.2p per share to a reverse takeover company.
This company is worth between 0.3p - 2p per share.IMHO
londonmetro - 17 Oct'03 - 15:13 - 705 of 747
Have just faxed brokers to get an RNS issued for our 3.62%
also spoke to Gerald Gold on his mobile.
psps - 17 Oct'03 - 15:16 - 706 of 747
OK folks.....all we know is that some have been telling PORKIES.
i do have a holding of 891,110 HONEST
matto - 17 Oct'03 - 15:16 - 707 of 747
Would be interested to know what he had to say
psps - 17 Oct'03 - 15:26 - 708 of 747
bid now .07
offer at .1
so the bid has increased from a low of .04p
tonyperks - 17 Oct'03 - 15:32 - 709 of 747=
Has anyone been tempted to sell out with that increase ???
Still awaiting my purchase to appear before confirming my 1%
mattheworchard - 17 Oct'03 - 15:33 - 710 of 747
Londonmetro.
London and Metropolitan Associates Ltd, is that a company then??
psps - 17 Oct'03 - 15:33 - 711 of 747
london metro,
WELL DONE at least there is one HONEST person on this BB who said that he had 8 MLN and the RNS has confirmed that
londonmetro - 17 Oct'03 - 16:01 - 712 of 747
reading agm docs at present has anyone else got them any thoughts
mattheworchard - 17 Oct'03 - 16:06 - 713 of 747
Yes, why the sudden crash in share price?
londonmetro - 17 Oct'03 - 16:10 - 714 of 747
jmillskeel please ring urgent
psps - 17 Oct'03 - 16:13 - 715 of 747
jmillskeel,
where is your name in the RNS ................have you really bought 12% of RSV
or are you teliing PORKIE.
lets hear the truth
Sojourno - 17 Oct'03 - 16:19 - 716 of 747
I think cougar gave advance notice of a 10,000,000 purchase, which then showed up.
Just helping, not holding any or claimed to.
londonmetro - 17 Oct'03 - 16:28 - 717 of 747
hope every one is filling in their proxy votes
PaulKent - 17 Oct'03 - 16:32 - 718 of 747
london
its only 50% of THOSE WHO VOTE, do u think that will work for you or against?..
mattheworchard - 17 Oct'03 - 16:36 - 719 of 747
I don;t have a proxy form, but I am only a holder from this week!
tonyperks - 17 Oct'03 - 16:42 - 720 of 747
Halifax say I bought another 2500000 at 16:34 ... kept me on hold for ages ... takes me to 3,740,000 ... please add me to the list
londonmetro - 17 Oct'03 - 16:50 - 721 of 747
who is going to meeting on monday as you will need to get an action group together... as proxy votes time limit was 4.30 pm today we have copy of agm and our proxy vote has been noted ... we need to try and get agm deferred and only pressure from a large holding can do this
cougar6 - 17 Oct'03 - 16:51 - 722 of 747
spoke to photo distribution today they are going to agm
matto - 17 Oct'03 - 16:52 - 723 of 747
I think you can only get an AGM/EGM postponed/adjourned if there is specific provision in the companies articles of association.
jmillskeel - 17 Oct'03 - 16:55 - 724 of 747
..
londonmetro - 17 Oct'03 - 16:56 - 725 of 747
here for 3 mins...
cougar6 - 17 Oct'03 - 16:57 - 726 of 747
ok
Sojourno - 17 Oct'03 - 17:05 - 727 of 747
RNS!
Sojourno - 17 Oct'03 - 17:09 - 728 of 747
..oh, and remember.... 30% is compulsory bid territory
(Just been reminded myself)
psps - 17 Oct'03 - 17:16 - 729 of 747
jmillskeel,
WELL DONE......JONATHAN..........................your name on the RNS
WOW we have a famous person on this BB..................what a lovelky week it has been.
knitcraft - 17 Oct'03 - 17:22 - 730 of 747
What a load of crap most posts on here are!!!!
You are right....you will still have the same percentage holding after the reoganisation.....STILL WORTH F--K ALL ..... as it is now.
At best the share price after reorganisation will likely still be the same as it is now,or at worst the company will be in liquidation.
There is no way the marketmakers don`t know what they are doing and they will be the only ones to make anything from this debacle.
This is the type of episode that gives MM`s and the SE a bad name.
Only too happy to be prooved wrong, but sure I wont.
psps - 17 Oct'03 - 17:23 - 731 of 747
knitcraft,
CRAP or no crap..........
this RSV has been the most interesting share in my life.
knitcraft - 17 Oct'03 - 17:24 - 732 of 747
I presume you must still be in nappies then.
mattheworchard - 17 Oct'03 - 17:46 - 733 of 747
knitcraft, watch and learn.
jmillskeel - 17 Oct'03 - 17:52 - 734 of 747
...
mattheworchard - 18 Oct'03 - 14:00 - 735 of 747
Daily mail: 18th October 2003
'Delivery service provider Room service edged up 0.03 to 0.08 after directors said they knew of no reason for the recent sharp movements in the share price. But rumours suggest a 1-for-100 share consolidation and financial reconstruction could be on the cards.'
My comment:
Not bad news...instead of tax losses of 3p per share, we will have £3 per share. AIM listed company will be 20p per share instead of 0.2p per share.
All good news in my opinion.
Thanks to everyone going to the AGM to support us smaller holders!
double6 - 18 Oct'03 - 14:05 - 736 of 747
After a 1 for 100 share consolidation, presumably the new shares will trade @ 8p ??
If you have 1 million shares @ 0.08p - it'll be 10000 shares @ 8p - still worth the same as today?
The only extra shares will be the apparent £100,000 of shares ("1p shares") issued to a creditor.
This is still less (in value) than the shares bought last week.
Will the MM's still not be totally short of stock ???
What the devil's happening ????????
double6 - 18 Oct'03 - 14:09 - 737 of 747
Look whats happened to OND (Overnet Data) on RTO rumours - risen 10-fold !!
psps - 18 Oct'03 - 16:02 - 738 of 747
double6,
any other cashshell companieas around
psps - 20 Oct'03 - 14:41 - 739 of 747
tonyperkins,
WELL DONE 8 on your RNS news
tonyperks - 20 Oct'03 - 15:25 - 740 of 747
Nice to be famous at last ... don't know for how long ... but it feels good !!!
Jonck - 20 Oct'03 - 15:34 - 741 of 747
well done Tony.
Simon Cole - 5 Nov'03 - 13:19 - 742 of 747
A colleague of mine has just told me that pre consolidation he owned 6.5 million shares - thats over 3% so does he need to notify someone?
Dusseldorf - 5 Nov'03 - 13:26 - 743 of 747
Yes, thats about 5%, legally he needs to inform the company secretary or their financial adviser ASAP. - its even more important that he does this now as several members of the discussion board are pursuing legal action.
Anomalous - 5 Nov'03 - 17:51 - 744 of 747
>Simon Cole
Can you please ask your friend to come onto the BB and post his email address. We can then inform him of the legal action taken so far and include him in the group.
nrockliffe - 6 Nov'03 - 08:20 - 745 of 747
A very small holding of 4,000 here but, still have rights....
Simon Cole - 6 Nov'03 - 17:07 - 746 of 747
Anomalous - I'll let him know the situation. What he does after that is up to him I guess.
nrockliffe - 12 Nov'03 - 15:20 - 747
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